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It's the off-season - bear with me here (or ignore the thread).
Help me out: Am I the only one totally annoyed by people calling Ohio State "Ohio." Here's the reasons that make me feel queasy:
1. Obvs: Ohio University. It is confusing at times.
2. It's not clever. I'm all about clever, subtle jabs at other schools: such as "tOSU". Or the "We Own Penn State" chant sung to Zombie Nation at Crisler. That's clever trolling I can get behind. "Ohio" isn't really clever to me.
3. It's a schticky main-stream media non-story created at the start of Hoke's career.
4. Hoke. I can appreciate he is sincere in his Bo/Woody-isms. I hate that it's another way for people to assert an anti-intellectual label to him. Like the saying goes, if we were winning, then it would probably be ignored.
5. It's kinda disrespectful to OU. There is a school that's named Ohio in Ohio. I like them much more than OSU and therefore side with them in their spat over the use of the word.
Just had to throw that one out there. Anyone in my boat. Or am I Francis and totally need to lighten up?
UPDATE: I've appreciated the views of everyone. This is turning into an interesting topic that's more nuanced that it may initially appear. Everyone Murders (an appropriate handle for the subject) put more eloquently than I:
I've got no problem when Hoke describes OSU as "Ohio". I think it's a habit that he has, and a bit endearing because it seems like he sincerely has to choke out that word - as though choking out the whole name of "Ohio State University" (or even "Ohio State") is too hard for him to stomach. So Hoke referring to Ohio State as "Ohio" is OK by me.
When everyone else uses it, I find it confusing and a bit forced. There is a legitimate Div. I university called Ohio University, they knocked us out of the NCAA tournament one year, and their mascot famously punched and horse-collar tackled Brutus. Ohio University was founded over 60 years before OSU. Importantly, most people I've met from Ohio University dislike OSU, and look at the OSU fanbase as a bunch of meatheads. I've got some respect for Ohio University.
Consequently, for people not named Brady Hoke I'm in the call Ohio State University either "Ohio State" or "OSU" camp. (Or call them Buckeyes or "cooler poopers". Or call them "library onanists" or "patio furniture fornicators".)
I would add truck-drivers to that list as well
I am a lot higher on Ohio State than most people. With their recruiting class, it will be hard not to improve on last year. The Buckeyes lose Lenzelle Smith Jr and Aaron Craft to graduation. They also lose LaQuinton Ross and Amedeo Della Valle to the pros. Yes you read that correctly, Della Valle is going pro. This means losing:
Losing the grittiest player of all time is tough for a team. However, Craft was not really all that good. I think Ohio State fans would much rather Scott start over Craft. They also get THREE 5 star recruits. Here is their projected roster:
# Name HT WT YR POS
55 Trey McDonald 6-8 240 SR. PF
The back-up Power Forward, will get about 15 minutes this year.
34 Jake Lorbach 6-7 210 SR. SG
24 Andrew Goldstein 6-3 200 SR. PG
23 Amir Williams 6-11 250 SR. C
The most UN-intersted man in basketball. He doesn't always try hard, but when he does, he is pretty good. If he tries this year, he can be dominant.
12 Sam Thompson 6-7 200 SR. SF
An athletic freak, he is gettting more and more skilled. He will get about 30 minutes a game this year. Sam should be one of their go-to guys.
3 Shannon Scott 6-1 185 SR. PG
Scott went off against us last year and if he can do that all the time, Ohio State will be set. He is almost as good on defense as Craft and he actually has something resembling an offensive game.
Anthony Lee 6-9 230 SR. PF
Lee is a transfer from Temple, if I am not mistaken he can play this year. He should be their go-to guy as he did pretty well at Temple.
15 Kam Williams 6-2 175 SO. PG
I am pretty sure he redshirted. In that case he will get about 5 to 10 minutes a game next year.
2 Marc Loving 6-7 215 SO. SF
Loving will be the back-up 3 this year and will probably split minutes with Bates-Diop as a back-up.
32 Trevor Thompson 6-11 210 SO. C
Transfer from Virginia Tech. Has to sit out a year.
D'Angelo Russell 6-4 180 FR. SG
A five star, the #1 best Shooting Guard in the class. He will start at the 2.
Keita Bates-Diop 6-7 190 FR. SF
A five star, the #6 Small Forward in the class. He will split minutes as the back-up 3.
Jae'Sean Tate 6-5 190 FR. SG
A five star, the #8 Small Forward in the class. He will be the back-up 2.
David Bell 6-9 200 FR. C
A three star, the #37 Center in the class. He will be the back-up 5.
Projected Starting Line-up:
Point Guard: Shannon Scott
Shooting Guard: D'Angelo Russell
Small Forward: Sam Thompson
Power Forward: Anthony Lee
Center: Amir WIlliams
Ohio State should be pretty good, I think they will finish 3rd in the B1G with a record of 13-5 in the B1G. If you disagree with anything, let me know.
Next up... Nebraska
Another must win game tonight at Yost. Matt Tomkins in net for Ohio State for the first time since January 24th. The game is on BTN.
Michigan goes for the first B1G sweep of the year in Columbus.
I find most of what Charles P. Pierce writes to be worth a read, and this column didn't disappoint.
Saturday afternoon, as the autumn haze burned away, there was no BCS. There were no delicate made-for-TV calculations. When and where and against whom undefeated Ohio State would be playing at the turn of the year became irrelevant within the confines of the Big House. (And may we now paraphrase the late football aficionado R.M. Nixon and point out that it is, indeed, a Big House.) Because of the way simple history can reassert itself, this game, this one right here in Ann Arbor, and later that one down in Jordan-Hare Stadium in Auburn, solved all of college football's annual end-of-the-season conundrums. History solved all those conundrums by complicating them, and by providing the simplest answer of all to the question "Who's no. 1?"
The answer: Who the rammer-jammer hell cares? Did you see those games?