i like 'em both
I am headed back to Houston from Destin, FL today and will be stopping in Pensacola to watch the Michigan/Ohio football game and was wondering if there was a preferred choice in Pensacola for watching the game.
Looking forward to everyone's input.
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I think we all know it’s inevitable. Not Meyer taking the job, I still have a minimal amount of unrealistic hope that he’ll turn them down, and that I get to laugh at my OSU acquaintances. But they’re going to offer, if they haven’t already. They aren’t going to handle things in a businesslike manner, waiting until after the season wraps up in January, getting together with Fickel for a few chats, and sleeping a few nights on it. No. They are moving now, in season, and reminding us that a metaphorical discipline bomb could be dropped at the 50 of the Horseshoe and this organization’s immediate response would be : “Well, what can we do to keep winning football games at any cost?”
Should Urban Meyer take the job, what would it mean for Ohio State and Michigan both in short terms and a few years from now? Here are my thoughts:
Do you remember when you were a child, and did something very bad? Do you remember a disciplinary figure giving you hell for it? Do you remember the day your father, or older brother, or mentor, or person that everyone in the room loved and respected, stepped in on your behalf and told those in charge of keeping order that “they’d talk to you about it”?
If Urban Meyer takes over at OSU, put your popcorn carts away. He’ll intercede for them. With Tressel at the helm the Buckeyes would have suffered the long dick of the law. With anybody else, they’d still get nailed for pulling off and covering up a scandal rivaled only by the past three decades at Miami, but not with Meyer.
Just like a pastor, or a youth care worker, he’ll step in, have a short chat with the NCAA board and say exactly this, or something like it, “I’ll talk to them about it.” At this point, everyone in the room will put on their bedroom eyes, and look fondly on Meyer as though he is a returning vet with a purple heart. Someone might even say “You go get em’ TIGER!”
Meyer will save Ohio the slap on the wrist. Write this down.
THE YEARS AHEAD:
This is going to end in one of two ways. Both of them will benefit Michigan.
Option 1: This whole thing blows up in their face. We’ve beaten Urban Meyer before. We will continue to beat him. The recruiting momentum is in our favor right now, and with this Michigan team rising to the current occasion, I don’t see it changing any time soon. Even if Les Miles showed up in Columbus with a scarlet hoodie and a headset. And remember, while Meyer is one hell of a coach, he’s a quitter. When the going got tough in Gainesville, he left, for health reasons. I am not going all conspiracy theorist on this. He probably had shit going on. But then he came back, swept in and took his Castle back a la Jay Leno, and when the ratings didn’t go back up, it was all of a sudden “family-time” for the Meyers. He proceeded to bail on Florida once more, and then proceeded to
spend considerable amounts of time with his family travel around the country producing editorial segments and calling games for ESPN. Now that college football season is winding down and he will finally have that valuable time with his kids and wife, he is settling in at home, and making plans for vacations and down time with his family talking about and addressing rumors about a return to Columbus as if he were waiting on the phone call. If he takes the job this winter, and we’re looking at an 8-4 buckeye squad in 2013 and 2014, will he stick around? The only thing more entertaining than Braxton Miller’s attempt at passing the ball fourteen yards will be Meyer’s newest excuse. Grandchildren? Erectile Dysfunction? Time to spend a few months responding to fan mail?
It works. Two years from now, the Buckeyes are looking at 10-3 post bowl game, and as a result are ranked #3 in the preseason polls for the next year. Don’t get me wrong, while I wish we Beat Ohio every year, instead of rolling a squad that can’t put a decent drive together, I’d rather take a big old piss in their chicken noodle soup. I don’t just want Michigan to beat them, I want them to ruin Ohio’s season. And as a result, our path to a National Championship just got a little straighter. We need our #1 rival to be a top ten team. It’s just how it is. Texas-Oklahoma Alabama-Auburn-LSU, Michigan-Ohio State. It’s rare that any one of these teams makes waves in the annual run at the BCS championship when their (or one of their) corresponding rivals don’t have a decent shot at 10-11 wins.
Meyer may mean we go from taking the Buckeyes 9 times out of 10 to maybe 6 or 7, but at least with him at the helm, we’ll not only get beat by a clean, talented program, we’ll have the opportunity to do it to them, just after thanksgiving, every year.
Either way, bring it on! Whichever one of our rivals (Notre Dame. Lolz) (Michigan State. Perpetual dream state that I’m confident will end soon. Very soon.) (Ohio. A big fat mess right now) wants to try and derail us….I say let them in.
In one year, Hoke and Co. have taught this team to play like Michigan again. But they’ve only gotten the job halfway done. Last off season, the fundamentals were laid in place. Last off season, they learned (and are finally showing it) how to play the game right. But his spring and summer, these athletes learn the other half of what Michigan football is: The toughness, the swagger, the Tremendous Tremendousosity. We’re only at the summit, friends.
And whether he’s in the media booth, or on the opposite sideline, Urban Meyer won’t change that.
We living in the lowest "down period" in Big Ten history during my lifetime.
How far has the conference fallen from the 2006 UM/OSU game that pitted #1 against #2 and had the two teams BARELY miss a rematch in the National Championship game (over an SEC team no less)?
For a variety of reasons, both OSU and UM have been the best programs at recruiting talent. High quality talent is highly corelated with national titles. The two schools usually finished first and second in the B1G and around the top 10-15 nationally in recruiting. When the two teams were headed by Carr and Cooper/Tressel, they used that talent to each win national championships and keep in the top 5-10 in the rankings.
Of course, we know what happened to UM with the coaching changes and vastly different schemes. UM still pulled in talent, but the coaching may have been suspect and the transition was brutal. It now seems to be turning itself around, but it lasted long enough for UM to have some of its worst seasons ever.
As for OSU, they kept winning the B1G and even getting national respect to be placed in the NC game a couple mroe times. At least they got there and seemed like serious contenders prior to the final game. I don't think that is something you can say about any other B1G team. But now, we see the transition and struggles of sanctions and coach turnover at OSU. Their high level recruits still need to be focused and "coached up."
And in the wake of the two generally most-talented programs falling (UM four year ago and OSU this year), who has filled the power void?
How about Wisconsin, MSU and Iowa? Teams that have steady, quality coaching during the transition periods of OSU/UM. (Sorry JoePa, but you are not the PSU coach in reality.) While those teams may have won a game or two against the OSU/UM teams in the past, they have enjoyed a lot more success lately.
But, those teams are obviously limted by the talent level on their teams. None of them recruit like a national title contender. There are few to zero "differenc makers" whose athletic talent transcends the system run by the school and who are clearly better than the other players on the field. These teams seem to just bulk up the lines and plug in quality (but not dynamic in their own right) players in the skill positions. Solid football, but nothing to make any of them a threat to legitimately contend for the National Championship.
IMO, you need both top-level talent and high quality coaching to be a nationally elite team (legit top 5 at the end of the year) in any given year.
Either MSU, Wisco and Iowa have to start recruiting like national powerhouse teams or OSU and UM need to find (or matintain) steady, high-quality coaching. (I think the later is more likely than the former....and, of course, Nebraska could be a wild card in this equation).
Until that time though, a darkness has warshed over the B1G.
Tried calling barnes and noble stores all over Southeast Michigan and they have all sold out of copies of three and out. Would be nice to see Borders still around for some competition to B&N to actually facilitate the demand of this book.
Tulane AD Rick Dickson has accepted resignation of HC Bob Toledo (formerly of HC of UCLA 1996-2000). Al Borges was the OC for Bob Toledo at UCLA from 1996-2000.
Bob Toledo was 13-35 at Tulane over 4 years and never coached a winning season there.
In December 1998 when Tommy Bowden left head job at Tulane for Clemson HC postin.
The then Tulane AD Sandy Barbour appointed Rich Rodriguez as the interim head coach.
At that time Tommy Bowden was recruiting hard for Rodriguez to come with him to Clemson to be his OC there.
Rodriguez said this back in December 1999:
"Of the four, I'd prefer to stay as Tulane's coach," Rodriguez said. "I've kind of set next Wednesday as my deadline to decide. That's when we begin practicing for the bowl game."
Would Rodriguez ever wish to return to New Orleans, LA? Time will tell.