that's unfortunate, but at least the interest is there on both sides
I remember LC not being a big fan of the guy. I guess he was on to something.
Watching the VaTech-Boise State game last night, the eerily chilling reminders of Mike Debord and LC were brutal.
How many 1st and goals from the 7-8-9 yard line were runs between the tackles? 2nd and goals went for 0 or negative yards? 3rd and goals went sailing out of the end zone, on overthrown crossing routes instead of nice fades to the corners? Just a terrible gameplan and strategy throughout. Not saying that there weren't other mistakes made, just that the scheme from the coaches seemed to minimize the opportunity to be aggressive and win, instead, biding their time so they could launch bombs with 69 seconds left, down by 3.
Debord has hit his upper limit as tight ends coach for the Seahawks, coaching a single player position. Why he was our OC will forever remain a mystery. One of my all-time favorite knuckleheaded quotes from Debord in The Wolverine season 2007 preview. Asked about the philosophy of the offense, he replied "establish the run." The next years preview, Calvin Magee responded with "score touchdowns."
I'm glad we've left Beamer-ball in the past, where it belongs...
Last week I found a tape of games from college. To my delight it was 2003 MSU (Perry's 50-carry game) and OSU (exposure by two touchdowns) on the same tape!
I noticed something. Near the end of the MSU game, Michigan called a naked bootleg pass. Navarre fumbled and it was returned for a score, getting Sparty back in the game. Afterwards, ABC's Jack Arute tries to get Lloyd in a "gotcha" moment, asking him who called the pass that became the infamous fumble. Lloyd paused, looked bothered, and said "I did." This was a really dumb and/or unprofessional exchange for an experienced guy like Arute.
Fast forward to the iconic moment of the OSU game. After kneeling the ball to go in up 14 points, Lloyd had to hear it from Todd Harris who wanted an explanation about not driving down the field and using timeouts. Lloyd gave him the famous "why would you ask a stupid question like that?" refused to answer another question and walked off the field.
For the first time, I realized the two are almost undoubtedly related. It doesn't take many bad experiences to get on the wrong side of a football coach. I bet Lloyd was ready to brush off any more of this sideline reporter silliness, especially from the sport's top media outfit. (He apologized the next day on Michigan Replay.)
The worst part was we had to hear from John Saunders and Craig James about how it was "uncalled for" and Lloyd should have "answered the question." This after ABC's sideline guys had second-guessed Carr twice in one season.
The only time I've ever respected Terry Bowden as an announcer was then - he stood up for the coach and said "it's totally reasonable to down the ball there."
Parenthetical: am I the only one who thinks the 2001 loss to Ohio State was one of the biggest blown shoulda-wons in recent Michigan memory? Looking back I see that game, a laydown performance against a poorer team, as the one inflecting a clear program decline. Then again, we stole one the week before at Wisconsin, so maybe things were just evening out.
As I was looking at our past recruiting classes I noticed just how bad the 2005 class turned out to be. I am not usually a downer about the football program but one has to wonder (and I'm not sure if I'm beating a dead horse with this subject) if Lloyd Carr did not dig Michigan football in a deep deep hole.
Any opinions if you think the 2005 recruiting class which screams of attrition affected the lack of success in the first year under the Rich Rodriguez regime?
This is the link to the 2005 recruiting class if people are interested: http://michigan.scout.com/a.z?s=162&p=9&c=8&yr=2005
We've seen Keith Jackson's 100th game intro recently on the board. Why not pull out this goody to remind us of what it felt like to be on the "summit." We need to remember the past two years, not forgetting the lessons in humility that we have learned; but now it's time to appreciate that we ARE the leaders and the best...
(yes, I was bored while working and decided to drink some Maize, wait, Sun Kool-Aid)...
Lloyd Carr Retires From the University of Michigan
ANN ARBOR, Mich. -- After 30 years of distinguished service to the University of Michigan, associate athletic director and former U-M head football coach Lloyd Carr will officially retire from the athletic department on Sept. 1.
“I am thankful for the wonderful opportunity to assist two great coaches here in Bo Schembechler and Gary Moeller and I will always appreciate Joe Roberson’s decision to name me the head coach in 1995,” said Carr. “I am also appreciative for those I worked with and for all the great friendships I have developed.
“Most of all, I am thankful for the young men I coached and for all the memories I have from my time at Michigan.”
Carr’s accomplishments off the field can be measured by his success as a fundraiser for many charitable causes, including his role as Co-Chair for the campaign to build a new C.S. Mott Children’s Hospital and Von Voigtlander Women’s Hospital which will open in the fall of 2011. He will remain active in fundraising and keep his position as co-chair for the fundraising effort for the hospitals. He has also aided both the athletic department and the university as a highly sought-after speaker, serving on special committees, and providing helpful advice and mentoring to coaches and staff.
“Lloyd Carr's legacy is an impressive and important part of Michigan's rich history and tradition of excellence in football,” said U-M President Mary Sue Coleman. “He has served the University as well through his advocacy and passion for a number of philanthropic causes. We are grateful for his long and successful service and wish him well in retirement.”
“I have known Lloyd since he came to Michigan as an assistant coach,” said Dave Brandon, U-M Director of Intercollegiate Athletics. “Coach Carr is a man of integrity. I admire and appreciate his love for all of our student-athletes and his many contributions to not only our University, but his work on behalf of numerous charitable causes throughout the State of Michigan.”
Carr is retiring after two-and-one-half years as an associate athletic director, but his accomplishments as U-M’s 17th head football coach will be an enduring memory.
Following the 2008 Capital One Bowl, Carr retired as U-M football coach with an overall record of 122-40 (81-23 Big Ten), a national championship and five Big Ten Conference titles. He is one of only three U-M coaches to win more than 100 games, an achievement only surpassed by Bo Schembechler and Fielding H. Yost. He is the only coach to have taken Michigan teams to a bowl game in each year he served as head coach and he is only the fifth head football coach to lead Michigan to a national title (1997).
Carr became just the second Big Ten coach to post an undefeated regular season record in just his third year of head coaching. He also wrote himself into the NCAA record books, becoming just the seventh coach in NCAA history to have reached 29 wins in just three seasons of coaching.
Carr has also been involved in the university, community and coaching fraternity. He has been active in support of women's athletics, endowing a women's athletics scholarship that is presented annually to a U-M female student-athlete. He initiated the Women's Football Academy and U-M Men's Fantasy Football Experience which donate all proceeds to the University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center through the establishment of the Coach Carr Cancer Fund in 1998 in memory of his mother, Pauline, who died of breast cancer. The “Carr Wash for Kids” was an annual event benefiting the Mott Children’s Hospital which is a cause he continues to support today. He also serves as spokesperson for Mentor Michigan to help recruit men and women to help children in need. He has been involved with local charities such as the Ann Arbor Symphony Orchestra, Shelter Association of Washtenaw County, Washtenaw Literacy and the United Way.
In the past, he also worked with Special Olympics, served on the NCAA Rules Committee and was a member of the American Football Coaches Association Board of Trustees. He annually hosts the Hall of Fame football camp in his hometown of Riverview, Mich. He was also given the Philip Hart Public Service Award from the Michigan Women’s Studies Association and the Dodge National Athletic Lifetime Achievement Award.
Carr is married to the former Laurie McCartney. They have six children: Melissa, Brett, Jason, Ryan, Emily and Jarrett. Jason was a quarterback at U-M and Emily lettered in volleyball. He has 11 grandchildren: Tyler John McCartney, Brendan Massey McCartney, Drew Elizabeth Vigo, Austin Patrick McCartney, Colin Lloyd McCartney, Sydney Ann Vigo, Ethan Michael McCartney, Casey Carr Vigo, Noah Thomas McCartney, Curtis Jason (C.J.) Carr and Thomas Lloyd Carr with another grandson expected in October.
CAREER COACHING HIGHLIGHTS
1995-2007: Overall record 122–40 (81-23 Big Ten)
5-Big Ten (1997–1998, 2000, 2003–2004)
AFCA Coach of the Year (1997)
Walter Camp Coach of the Year (1997)
Paul “Bear” Bryant Award (1997)
AFQ/Schutt Coach of the Year (1997)
Northern Michigan University Hall of Fame (1997)
Catholic League Hall of Fame (1997)
Bobby Dodd Coach of the Year (2007)
Robert R. Neyland Award (2008)
1976–77 Assistant (Eastern Michigan)
1978–79 Assistant (Illinois)
1980–86 Defensive Backs (Michigan)
1987–94 Defensive Coordinator (Michigan)
1995–2007 Head Coach (Michigan)
High School Coaching
1968-69 Assistant Nativity HS (Detroit)
1970-73 Assistant Belleville (Mich.)
1973-75 Head coach Westland (Mich.) John Glenn
Regional Class A Coach of the Year (1975)