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Paterno biography due out, partial excerpts from last days at PSU

By justingoblue — August 15th, 2012 at 2:41 PM — 38 comments
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GQ has a fairly lengthy excerpt of a new biography on Joe Paterno in their September issue. Currently, they're publishing part of it online and I found it interesting, if only because it shows some actual emotion from Paterno. Now, the emotion shared in this small excerpt is still emotion about Joe Paterno, but I can start to see where he may have realized the gravity of his inaction a decade earlier.

Here's the link. They have it broken into three paragraphs, and I'll blockquote one from the day following his firing below.

On Thursday, Paterno met with his coaches at his house. He sobbed uncontrollably. This was his bad day. Later, one of his former captains, Brandon Short, stopped by the house. When Brandon asked, "How are you doing, Coach?" Paterno answered, "I'm okay," but the last syllable was shaky, muffled by crying, and then he broke down and said, "I don't know what I'm going to do with myself." Nobody knew how to handle such emotion. Joe had always seemed invulnerable. On Thursday, though, he cried continually. "My name," he told Jay, "I have spent my whole life trying to make that name mean something. And now it's gone."
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Is There No PSU Fan Who Gets It?

By UMgradMSUdad — July 24th, 2012 at 6:26 AM — 65 comments
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Is there no Penn State fan who truly gets it?

I’ve been browsing fan websites for weeks, looking for a sign that Penn State fans understand why there is such enduring controversy surrounding their football program and school.  I can’t say that I’ve seen evidence that even a single fan really gets it.  The current president of the university seems to understand, but the most vocal PSU fans and alumni want to ride him out of town on a rail. The PSU fans seem to respond to the lunatic fringe of the blogosphere with answers to questions that no sane person is asking.

For example, PSU fans acknowledge that pedophilia is horrible and should never occur, but then act as though that somehow shows that they “get it.”

PSU fans list all the positive attributes of Penn State, its football players, its graduates, etc., etc.  Yes, we sane “outsiders” all understand that there is more good than bad in Penn State and there is plenty to be proud of.  Again, that’s never been in question, except to the lunatic fringe.

It is the next point, though, that begins to get at the crux of the problem. PSU fans point out the half truth that this sort of thing happens everywhere. Yes, child sex abuse is far more prevalent than most people realize, and most of us probably do know someone who has been abused and very well may know an abuser without realizing it.  These truths, though, ignore the difference, the reason Penn State is singled out and stands alone among US universities (as far as we know): at no other institution were there repeated allegations of child sex abuse that rose to the very top of the university where the response was to cover up, protect the pedophile, thereby allowing him to continue abusing children for over a decade.

Now, many PSU fans do acknowledge this last point, but almost none without spinning it in such a way to convince themselves it was just an isolated incident with just a few bad apples (I don’t know how many times I’ve heard it was just one monster and two, perhaps three others) and they are now out of the university, so the problem has been resolved.  That third individual, which many PSU fans still refuse to acknowledge, played a role in this is a if not the central figure in the cover up.  Joe Paterno, for all the teaching and preaching (and leading by example) he did about honor, integrity, doing things “the right way,” failed miserably on the biggest test to ever come his way.  There is no getting around this.  But these are the points I’m waiting for a Penn State fan to acknowledge, and it is some semblance of refusal to acknowledge these or similar points that leads to many saying Penn State fans still don’t get it:

1)      There was a cult of personality surrounding Joe Paterno.  This is not unique to PSU, so I’m not quite sure why there is such resistance to acknowledging this point.  The only difference might be that Joe Pa’s longevity and success led to a level of reverence perhaps never achieved at another university.

 

2)      Joe Paterno was the most powerful individual at Penn State for decades.

 

3)      While he might not be culpable legally under Pennsylvania law, morally and ethically Paterno failed the child abuse victims and the community by not doing more to stop Jerry Sandusky.

 

4)      When the most powerful person on campus, the athletic director, and the president of the university all cover up and enable a child rapist to continue his abuse for decades, and others in far lower positions in the university are afraid to come forward with complaints there is a question that must be asked and answered: who or what enabled the enablers?

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PSU Scandal 7/19 Thread

By Leaders And Best — July 19th, 2012 at 10:34 AM — 25 comments
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Open thread for Penn State news and discussion.

Today is one week since the Freeh Report was released and it is surreal to think how much has changed at Penn State in one year. This short documentary on Paterno was released a little over one year ago, and the meaning of it has changed so much since then that it is frightening:

These are the videos that are being released about Paterno and Penn State now:

 

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Paterno family to conduct their own review

By Leaders And Best — July 16th, 2012 at 10:38 AM — 90 comments
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Paterno family to conduct their own independent review of the independent review conducted by PSU.

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/8169773/penn-state-nittany-lions-paternos-conduct-own-review-freeh-data

Just when I thought this story couldn't get any uglier, it does. In other news, the Paterno family is also vowing to find the real killer in the OJ Simpson murder trial.

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Freeh Report on PSU - open thread

By Leaders And Best — July 12th, 2012 at 8:55 AM — 202 comments
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Freeh Report release this morning at 9am on the PSU Sandusky scandal.

Freeh Report text:

http://www.thefreehreportonpsu.com/REPORT_FINAL_071212.pdf

Freeh Press Release on Report (summary of findings):

http://www.thefreehreportonpsu.com/Press_Release_07_12_12.pdf

Live coverage of press conference at 10am (one of these links should work):

http://www.witf.org/regional-a-state-news/live-audio-video-and-interactive-coverage-of-freeh-report

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=8732365

Deadspin obtained drafts of Freeh preparation for Q & A at today's press conference:

http://deadspin.com/5925339/the-freeh-report-will-conclude-paternos-firing-was-warranted-according-to-these-preparation-documents

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Joe Pa's letter on the scandal before he died

By yoyo — July 12th, 2012 at 1:00 AM — 47 comments
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He still doesn't sound apologetic at all and avoids discussing the real issue at hand.  He let a monster stick around and harm defenseless children.  Instead, he criticizes school officials for attacking the football program.  I realize he was elderly and PSU football was his life but he had no remorse for his mistakes.

 

Link: http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8157705/penn-state-nittan...

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