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Who would be in a Michigan Football Ring of Honor?

By m1jjb00 — July 17th, 2011 at 8:49 PM — 63 comments
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[Ed-M: Bump'ed like Elliott]

Brian got me thinking about who deserves to be in a Michigan ring of honor, so I did the only thing I know:  Dump a bunch of data into a spreadsheet and rank them arbitrarily. I gave a point for being the College Hall of Fame, Michigan's Hall of Honor, Michigan retiring their number, points equal to the number of years being an All American, being in the top four in the Heisman (another 2 for winning it), and up to a point for winning other post-season awards.  One could include other considerations, such as championships, captaincy, or being President of the United States.

The table below presents the data, sorted first by points and then year.

Some comments:

I would think anyone Chappuis and above deserves to be in.

I included only some 2-point guys of interest in the table below, most of whom aren't in Michigan's Hall of Honor or the Hall of Fame.

Coaches aren't included, except Kipke who is there because of his playing, though I don't know how much of his playing versus coaching got him in the Hall of Fame.

Why is Benbrook not in Michigan's Hall of Honor?

Obviously newer guys benefit from the various awards now available. The Heisman was first awarded in 1935. I would think Heston could have won it.

In 1939 Harmon finished 2nd in the Heisman voting to Nile Kinnick before winning it in 1940.

The All of American data are a bit surprising.  Gerald Ford isn't listed.  I had thought Carter was a three-year All American.  There may be other surprises.  I used a list from the NCAA (data source below), which made it easy, but the list may be flawed.

Player Yrs HoF MHoH # All Am Heisman Awards
Tom Harmon 37-40 y y y 2 2nd, 1st Maxwell
Desmond Howard 89-92 y y   1 1st Maxwell, Camp, Nagurski, Bednarik
Bennie Oosterbaan 24-27 y y y 3    
Alvin Wistert 47-49 y y y 2    
Ron Kramer 53-56 y y y 2    
Anthony Carter 79-82 y y   2 4th  
Charles Woodson 95-97       1 1st Camp, Thorpe
Willie Heston 01-04 y y   2    
Benny Friedman 23-26 y y   2    
Francis Wistert 30-33 y y y 1    
Albert Wistert 38-42 y y y 1    
Bob Chappuis 42, 46-47 y y   1 2nd  
Neil Snow 1898-02 y y   1    
Adolph Schulz 04-05, 07-08 y y   1    
Albert Benbrook 08-10 y     2    
Harry Kipke 20-23 y y   1    
Harry Newman 29-32 y y   1    
Robert Westfall 38-41 y y   1    
Jim Mandich 66-69 y y   1    
Tom Curtis 67-69 y y   1    
Dan Dierdorf 67-70 y y   1    
Reggie McKenzie 68-71 y y   1    
Dave Brown 72-74 y     2    
Chris Perry 00-03       1 4th Walker
Rob Lytle 73-76       1 3rd  
Mark Donahue 74-77       2    
Rick Leach 75-78   y     3rd  
Tripp Welbourne 87-90       2    
Braylon Edwards 01-04       1   Biletnikoff
David Baas 01-04       1   Rimington
LaMarr Woodley 03-06       1   Lombardi, Hendricks
Jake Long 04-07       2    

Data Sources: All-American, Heisman and other award data, Michigan Hall of Honor, and College Football Hall of Fame

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Interview with an icon: Desmond Howard - Omaha.com

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The Omaha World Herald's Nebraska football blog, Big Red Today, recently interviewed U-M legend Desmond Howard as part of their ongoing Big Ten Roundup.  Never short of an opinion, Howard shares his thoughts on a wide range of topics including Jim Tressel, NCAA rules, Reggie Bush, and Michigan's coaching change.

On Michigan's transition with Brady Hoke:

I don't think Rich Rodriguez was a bad coach. I don't think he was a bad guy. He did the best he could. It just wasn't a good fit. I think Brady Hoke is a much better fit. He understands the culture. He's coached here before. I think it's his dream job. You want someone there that pretty much wants to die there. This is like their end game. I believe that's how Brady Hoke feels about the Michigan job. He was a guy who said he would've walked from San Diego State to Ann Arbor. That's kind of what you want in that position.

Click here to read the entire interview: http://omaha.com/article/20110620/BIGRED/706209847/-1#interview-with-an-icon-desmond-howard

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By preed1 — June 16th, 2011 at 11:02 PM — 10 comments
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I Wore 21: The Legend of Desmond Howard - September 10, 2011 Release 

http://www.desmondhoward.com/news.html 

Huh, I wonder why they chose that date? Note, this was already posted in a post about a month ago and thought it should have its own thread.

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By Yostal — June 9th, 2011 at 1:11 PM — 10 comments
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OK, to my knowledge this has never come up:


That is the video for Coolio's single "1-2-3-4 (Sumpin' New)" from 1996.  When I saw it, I immediately noticed Mr. Ivey is wearing a 1995 Nike Michigan home jersey #18, which would make it Amani Toomer.  It would also make it one of the earliest Nike Michigan replica jerseys to feature the swoosh.  (He looks to have the tackle twill model rather than the screenpressed.)

But wait, at both 0:27 and 0:54, we see that one of Coolio's posse is rocking a #21 white Michigan road jersey.  I do not see the swoosh on it, so I am going to presume that this is a Howard homage rather than a Biakabatuka, although the video would have been likely shot post-1995 Ohio State game, so perhaps it is a 313 shout out.

Anyway, since it had never come up to my knowledge, here it is.  Enjoy your Thursday afternoon.  Because there ain't no party like a Big House party because a Big House party don't stop.

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Desmond and Shoelace are just fine

By JeepinBen — June 5th, 2011 at 7:40 PM — 52 comments
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So there was some definite angst here when Desmond spoke out at a conference and used Denard as an example of the entitlement that the fans and media give to athletes (paraphrased as to what I hope/think he meant)

Desmond's twitter feed shows that the two of them are just fine:

 

desmond_howard Desmond Howard 
 
Last pic of the weekend. Some of you thought you could come btwn me & Shoelace. Wolverines for life! Run tell that.http://say.ly/NdSnWu
 
 

 Last pic of the weekend. Some of you thought you could come btwn me & Shoelace. Wolverines for life! Run tell that.
Desmond Howard on WhoSay

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Desmond Howard Owns an OSU Twoll

By MGoShoe — April 24th, 2011 at 2:44 PM — 26 comments
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On a very quiet Easter Sunday, here's a little humor for you while you watch the Tigers attempt to sweep the ChiSox.


Desmond Howard was innocently doing his thing on Twitter earlier today:

desmond_howard How do you judge the character or a person? Give an example or a quote that best describes your feelings/thoughts

desmond_howard One can easily judge the character of a person by the way they treat people who can do nothing for them.
When an Ohio State twoll comes back with this:

TheZinnMaster: @desmond_howard well if your [sic] from Ohio and went to mich that says alot [sic] about your character.

To which Desmond replies:

desmond_howard Says I made a GREAT decision RT @TheZinnMaster: @desmond_howard well if your from Ohio and went to mich that says alot about your character.
Kirk Herbstreit who recently moved his family and home from Columbus because of the overwhelming crap he gets from OSU fans chimes in with this support to his College GameDay colleague:

K_Herbstreit: @desmond_howard @TheZinnMaster even on easter they don't take a break. Haha!

Desmond's new buddy comes back with this attempt to smooth things over:

TheZinnMaster @K_Herbstreit @desmond_howard My hate for mi*hign aside. College Gameday is the best show on tv. Love it!
Desmond retorts:
desmond_howard I give u credit 4 admitting Ur a hater RT @TheZinnMaster: @desmond_howard My hate 4 Mich aside.College Gameday is the best show on tv.Luv it!
Zinn can't leave well enough alone:
TheZinnMaster @desmond_howard 7 straight baby!
To which Desmond knocks him upside the head with this:
desmond_howard Congrats,you should tat that on your forehead. LMAO! RT @TheZinnMaster: @desmond_howard 7 straight baby!

Moral of the story: You will lose if you mess with #21.
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