The PFF grades I've been seeing brought up a couple thoughts I've been having for a while about In-Game coaching. How much can coaches actually gather about performance during games from the sidelines? Some stuff is obvious, but it seems like overall line play is extremely difficult to judge during the course of a game with so much happening on a given play. Of course Harbaugh and other coaches are much better at this than fans, but I would assume they learn a large majority from reviewing game film. That also leads to the question of how much of an impact does coaching have throughout the game? Obviously gameplans and preparation are extremely important, but how much can a coach really change during the game? At some point you just have to let the boys play. Any coaches on the board have any insight?
Obviously this is mostly meant for discussion as these questions can't be answered by us exactly, but I still find it interesting to think about.
What streak am I talking about?
Hint #1: One of these is not like the others (pay attention to year):
- Bennie Oosterbann (1948)
- Bump Elliot (1959)
- Bo (1969)
- Moeller (1990)
- Lloyd Carr (1995)
- Rich Rod (2008)
- Hoke (2011)
Bennie Oosterbann did something none of the other coaches did in their first year. He was the only one of the group to beat Michigan State in his first year of head coach.
Oosterban beat both MSU and OSU in his first year (9-0 record in 1st year).
Bump beat OSU, but lost to MSU 34-8 (4-5 record in 1st year).
Bo, well, I think we all know he beat OSU, but lost to MSU 23-12 (8-3 in 1st year).
Moeller beat OSU, but lost to MSU 28-27 (9-3 in 1st year).
Lloyd beat OSU, but lost to MSU 28-25 (9-4 in 1st year).
Rich Rod lost to OSU, and lost to MSU 35-21 (3-9 in 1st year).
Hoke beat OSU, but lost to MSU 28-14 (11-2 in 1st year).
So, my question is, does this knowledge impact your answer to the question we've seen floating around this board about 1000x the past couple weeks:
Who would you rather Michigan beat this year, MSU or OSU? The obvious answer is both, but I think I'll have to stick to my gut and say I'd rather see us beat Urban. He's a wildfire that nobody can contain. Of course, if Michigan beating OSU puts MSU in the B1G Championship game, with a shot at the playoff, well.....then I give up!
Here is a guy who, in my humble opinion, hasn't recieved enough attention as a candidate.
1. Toldeo native; claimed to be excited to live in Cleveland, which means spending time up north is not a big deal.
2. Seems to be one hell of an offensive coordinator. Record-setting and Championship-winning stint as the Miami Hurricane Offensive Coordinator.
3. Despite having spent the last 10 years in the pro-ranks, is still only 46 years old.
4. Made the Browns offense respectable during the dumpster-fire 2007 season.
5. Helped the Panthers offense improve dramattically.
6. Key player development as a tight ends coach during Miami's excellent run at the position. Not to mention Antonio Gates and Cam Newton.
7. As his current job is a "special assistant to the head coach" with the Colts, would be immediatly availible in december or (if need be) January.
1. The elephant in the room: the Cleveland disaster from last year. While his record with a minimal talent team left something to be desired, the second consecutive house cleaning that took place seems to not have been his fault. The Cleveland Browns were a terrible organization.
2. He has not coached in college since 2003.
3. Reportedly has a huge playbook that can take some teams a lot of time to learn.
4. Minimal head coaching experience.
5. His time in Miami may have been tainted with some improprities.
I don't know if he's the best candidate availible,but he seems to be a pretty good coach who has gained quite a bit of respect around the NFL.
Browns Fans: is there any reason why he wouldn't be a good head coach?
|Date||Michigan||U-M 3Q Points||Opponent||Opp. 3Q Points|
|Nov. 16, 2013||Michigan||0||Northwestern||3|
|Nov. 23, 2013||Michigan||0||Iowa||7|
|Nov. 30, 2013||Michigan||0||Ohio State||14|
|Dec. 28, 2013||Michigan||0||Kansas State||0|
|Sept. 6, 2014||Michigan||0||Notre Dame||7|
|Sept. 20, 2014||Michigan||0||Utah||7|
|Sept. 27, 2014||Michigan||0||Minnesota||17|
|Oct. 4, 2014||Michigan||0||Rutgers||0|
Edit: I think there's some misunderstanding here. This is just a thread to discuss whether or not Funk should be fired with a slant towards 'no.' It is a reaction to the calls for his firing in sUTL threads.
A summary of the debate to date (subject to edit)
Point: O-line is young.
Counterpoint: They're not as young.
Point: Borges effed this joint up. Compounding youth, unnecessary (and ineffective) complexity stifled learning.
Counterpoint: Can't blame everything on Al. What if we're mistaking the the root of the problem--maybe Al was trying to gameplan around Funk's deficiencies.
Point: He knows what he's doing.
Counterpoint: He doesn't know what he's doing.
-Ed: I don't know what I'm doing.
Point: You've got to look at this stuff in context. Blaming Funk for the poor state of the O-line is like forcing someone into a cage and accusing them of misbehaving when they throw something at you.
Counterpoint: We must judge him based on performance.
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