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The Bucs then signed running back Carlos Brown, the former Michigan star who entered the league in April as an undrafted free agent with the New Orleans Saints.
+1 DixieWreck if he comments here as he broke it but wasn't at the 20 point barrier yet.
Carlos Brown signed with the Superbowl Champion Saints.
In light of recent research, etc., it seems what Michigan could use more than anything right now is a solid safety.
Like a senior, highly rated, responsible, football smart, playmaking safety.
Like, let's just say, the No. 6 defensive back of 2006.
Some guy named Brown.
Like this guy (after ad):
Now, this has no bearing whatsoever on the current team, because it is way too late to make this change.
But what if Carlos Brown had, at some point in his career, converted back to safety?
Safety Carlos Brown?
I believe the reason for Brown's surprising Michigan commitment was that Lloyd promised him he could play tailback. Someone else may confirm that for me -- that's memory's service, and I have proven to have a bad memory.
Now, a promise is a promise, say they, unless it's a promise to a player about the position he will ultimately end up at.
Subject to the will of the service.
Could it Have Happened?
The depth problems at safety have been known about for a long time. They were a certainty, at the latest, by Spring 2007, when Jonas Mouton's move to linebacker meant Lloyd's staff had to know that its post-Englemon/Adams future was essentially Stevie Brown ('06) and Michael Williams ('07) [meeting their respective expectations] or bust.*
At that point S.Brown was a hypey sophomore, and Williams a not-yet-enrolled freshman headed for a redshirt. That was it for depth.
Meanwhile, in Spring 2007, the post-Hart tailback outlook was Brandon Minor (already heir apparent after some long runs as a freshman), Kevin Grady (whose future on the team was by that point in some doubt), Carlos Brown, and Avery Horn (Mister Simpson was already transferring). Sam McGuffie and Mike Cox [sic] already had happy teeth.**
I mean, gee, what if at some point in Spring 2007 Carr pulled Carlos Brown aside and said something...something...something
Hey, guys, I wonder what it was like back in Spring 2007...Spring 2007...Spring 2007
Wouldn't it be great, guys, if we could go back to 2007 and see what that conversation would be like?...would be like?...would be like?
[in Carr voice]
"Carlos, hey Carlos, come in and talk. Listen, I know that I made a promise to you that if you came here you'd be a running back, and that our pact would stand in the way, or let's say 'occlude' your moving to another position. That will be your word today, Carlos, 'occlude.' You and your teammates will all learn 'occlude' today.
Now listen, Carlos. I have Hart and he is tremendous. And I have Minor, and he is also tremendous. So I have two tremendous backs this year. And I also have Grady, if he can ever get that cranial occlusion out of his rectum. So my depth at your position is pretty good right now. Not tremendous, but pretty good.
But Carlos, I am looking toward the future here, and I have already noticed, as you probably have, that the guys I have that are your age at safety have a similar rectal occlusion of the crania, particularly your namesake, that wirey kid who made me change Grady's number.
Carlos, you played safety in high school. You were a tremendous safety, if I remember. And we can still redshirt you.
We can go into this year with Hart and Minor, and if anything happens to those guys, you and I are right back where we started. But if you hang off the field this season, you can work with the safeties again. And then by next year, Carlos, you'll still be a sophomore, and we will have some depth at defensive back. I think you could easily be our starter in 2008, Carlos, especially given the aforementioned crania-in-rectum situation of the other Brown kid.
I think we have a chance to do some great things with this team in this environment, Carlos.
So, whattaya say, Carlos? You know as everyone else kind of knows that I won't be around here much longer. I want to know that I left Michigan in the kind of shape to continue having the kind of success we've had here. I want to be sure that I'm not leaving a vital position on our defense -- you know how I love good defense Carlos -- to the off-chance that someone can get production out of that guy whose got such a cranial occlusion of the rectum he's seeing the name on the back of his jersey. Are you up for it? Do you wanna be a safety again?
So whaddayathink? Do you wonder if Lloyd would have gone for it? Do you wonder if Carlos would have accepted? Do you wonder if it would have worked? Do you wonder how many games Michigan might have won in 2008 through 2010 if it had worked? Do you wonder if Russell Crowe was in the room when this conversation was taking place?
I guess it's implausible now (both C.Brown at safety and Russell Crowe being in whatever room you're in at the moment). If it was plausible, I would have made this a diary, and included cha..
But a man can dream sequence, can't he?
* "Bust" at that point meant "Artis Chambers"
Lloyd Carr was accused of leaving the cupboard bare when he retired as our coach, but I wonder if that was really true.
Ryan Mallet is playing extremely well for Arkansas and Boren the traitor is starting for OSU. I don't see anyone in RichRod's stable who will replace Brandon Minor or Carlos Brown, although Brown's and Minor's injuries have always been a problem. I don't see any D linemen who are about to make us forget Graham any time soon. Where is that big, hard driving back? Much of the rapidly improving O line came from Carr.
I am aware of the issues in our defensive backfield where, other than Warren, there wasn't much talent. Ditto for linebacker.
I realize that a 3-9 season didn't help, and it may well be way early to think this way, but I am simply not seeing similar talent showing up. Our great coup of last year, William Campbell, isn't showing very much.
Am I missing something here?
UM vs. EMU
- eh, it's just a mac team. can't really tell much.
- of course CMU is just a mac team too, so of course I prefer this result to MSU's
- Booboo seemed to do much better when not covering future NFL stars. still was giving a little too much room on the goal line though.
- Carlos is fast.
- Carlos might have a future in the NFL as a third down back. Decent blocker on the blitz pickup. Catches the ball well out of the backfield. Has that home run speed. But he needs to work on his leg strength. he goes down a little to easily.
- We absolutely MUST get Denard on the field more. I don't care how. He's just too much of a threat to not have on the field against the tougher competition. If not, it's a huge waste. (Korean word for the week, 아깝다 "akapda!")
- It's not that Denard is fast, he's got amazing quickness. He's got major acceleration (and the little known third time derivative of position, "Jerk") that is usually just called a quick first step. But it's more than that. His acceleration is not linear. I'm in awe.
- Sparty, NO! wow, two weeks in a row. talk about rescuing defeat from the jaws of victory.
- Their QB's actually looked pretty good, except for the last two passes.
- ND's outside receivers have great ups, but they need to work on their landing skills. even last week, tate dropped the ball when he landed on his back, floyd skinned his knee. and they had some other drops. this week floyd breaks his collarbone and tate dives into the wrong band (which, LOL!) along with some other drops.
- Rudolph is a serious receiving threat. Pass catching tightends are pretty valuable in the pro's. But he needs to bulk up and learn how to block better
- MSU was slow to adjust to rudolph on the bubble screen. They kept blitzing from the far side but never got there.
- How many TE's do you see running bubble screens?
- ND fans shouldn't get uppity about this win just yet. They had to beat MSU eventually, and got a little lucky that sparty spartied themselves this week.
- ND looks like it might go 9-3 or 10-2 and with the loses by byu and utah might end up in a bcs bowl (which makes me want to PUKE!)
- Auburn's offense looks a lot like the old single wing, just out of a shotgun formation.
- WVU was on its way to a blowout until Jarret Brown turned into a turnover machine.
- I chalk that up to bad coaching and a lack of mental discipline.
- There's something about Auburn's uniforms or shoulder pads that make them look slow. They're not, they just look slow. Maybe their guys are wearing extra rib protection or something.
- Mallet looks pretty good
- I keep thinking he's only got 4 plus games of experience, but he's really in his third year out of highschool and looks much more like a polished junior than a guy in his 6th game.
- But he did stink it up in the fourth quarter, probably due to georgia's defensive adjustments. But hey, coffee is for closers.
- I don't know why Arkansas would ever run, other than to just keep the defense honest. their passing attack is so much better than their rushing attack.
- Just like WVU, it looked like Arkansas was going to blow them out, but turnovers helped swing it the other way.
- I think Erin Andrews is dressing more conservatively since her incident.
- Holy crap, Ben Terry has 12 fingers! Someone go tell Inigo Montoya! Mutants are walking amongst us! Shenanigans! Shenanigans!
- Brian Kelly = good coach
- If you were him, would you go to a second tier SEC school just for a ton of money... eh, yea probably.
- Why exactly was BYU favored in this game? Ok, so they have a nice offense, but if you looked just at talent, FSU has bigger and faster players at just about every position. FSU looked really good in coming up just short against miami. That was a BCS powerhouse game. BYU looked pretty meh in defeating a bradfordless oklahoma. yeah, FSU looked lethargic against jacksonville state (or whatever they're called), but it's an emotional letdown game and completely understandable.
- Anyone else think it's unfair that many of BYU's players are like 26?
- So now Boise will finally be ranked ahead of BYU (which, like DUH!) but boise's schedule is pretty awful.
- Why the hell is ole miss ranked so high? What exactly have they done? (this was written before last night's game)
- The more time I have to watch actual football, the less desire I have to read about it. It's completely backwards. Sports columnists don't write much in the offseason when I actually need something to fill the void. And during the season I don't really care what their uninformed opinions are because I can download the games for myself.
- I have almost completely stopped reading columnists I used to read weekly just a couple years ago. Easterbrook, Fiutak, Mandel. Maybe if I was stuck at work all day and needed a diversion. But they seem to be filled with stupid opinions, and I hate stupidity. I want actual analysis.
- Picture pages are awesome.
- In general, anything worth reading regarding Michigan is posted to the board here, so why bother wading through all the unrelated crap at the big websites?
- Or why bother reading some guy's opinion about michigan when he only saw the 5 plays that made the highlight reel?
- not a great week for the big ten, but still virtually tied with the pac ten and SEC for best out of conference records.
- The top of the MAC has definitely pulled even with the middle of the big ten.
- Indiana is 3-0. Who woulda thought this was going to be a matchup of undefeateds just a month ago?
- If iowa beats PSU, should I be excited that PSU is mortal or worried about going into Iowa? I guess both.
Once again on Saturday, we saw Carlos Brown's display of speed, acceleration, and vision. He had the third-longest run in Michigan history (90 yards) and had 187 yards rushing altogether. He's had good games against several middling opponents (Illinois, Eastern Michigan, Minnesota, Northwestern) and Michigan fans have been buzzing about him for a few years.
However, Brown has been consistently hurt throughout his 3+ years on campus. He sat behind Mike Hart for two years and finally seems to be healthy. We also saw my biggest frustration with Brown rear its ugly head on Saturday - he doesn't consistently break tackles, as evidenced by the soft breeze that felled him on his 30-yard run in the first quarter.
So what can we expect from Brown after this year? Does he get drafted late? If he goes undrafted, will anyone sign him as a UFA? Can a guy like him stick around for any length of time in the NFL? Is he perhaps an ideal third down back, a guy who can catch the ball out of the backfield, block adequately, or take a draw play 80 yards?
In my opinion, he doesn't run tough enough to be an every down back. But I can see him sticking around for a few years to return kicks, play on third downs, etc. I think he has more potential as an NFL player than Mike Hart*.
*No, this isn't revisionist history. I said from the beginning that Hart wouldn't make it in the NFL. So far that's held to be true.