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By RONick — November 26th, 2010 at 4:26 PM — 18 comments
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With West Virginia beating Pittsburgh today in the Backyard Brawl, UConn, of all teams, now controls its own destiny to get to the BCS.  This is due to their two victories over the above referenced teams.  Now, I know that we all expected UConn to be a decent team this year, but after their showing in Michigan Stadium, did anyone really expect this?

The Big East is a joke and doesn't deserve an automatic BCS representative.

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So, back in June it was reported that FedEx CEO Fred Smith was offering $10M annually to the BCS conference that would take Memphis into their fold.

Matt Jones of Kentucky Sports Radio just tweeted that the Big East has taken him up on the offer.

@KySportsRadio: Rumor to file away in case it happens: reliable source tells me Memphis will join the B-East Tues.

If this is accurate (and we all know how accurate similar rumors were this spring), what effect, if any, would this have on the Big Ten's calculus vis-a-vis Big East expansion targets?

In any case, this is something to watch for. 

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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aWUsBAy1o7lE

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Dear Big East Pickers:

Except for last year's Connecticut and Villanova showings, the big east has only been in the Final Four 3 times.

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By Seth9 — March 10th, 2010 at 1:25 AM — 53 comments
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The more recent developments in the Big Ten expansion have been very interesting (and to an extent, frightening). The most important of these are the leaked reports that Rutgers is near or at the top of the Big Ten's expansion plans and Notre Dame coming out and saying that they may be forced to join a conference. This led me to think about the implications of these statements and I've come up with some interesting (and quite possibly/likely incorrect) conclusions.
First of all, only of Big Ten fans and Notre Dame (and others who want to join the Big Ten) would be upset about Rutgers joining the Big Ten. Big Ten fans would obviously be upset (with the possible exception of Indiana football fans) because Rutgers would be a perennial doormat in football and basketball. Notre Dame would also be upset because the generally open door that the Big Ten has left for Notre Dame to join would likely close. Now, Notre Dame has made it clear that they have no desire to join the Big Ten and prefer their independent status in football. However, the open door that the Big Ten has provided for Notre Dame has given them a powerful tool when negotiating with the Big East.

This brings me to the heart of the matter. Should Rutgers join the Big Ten, the Big East could actually benefit. Rutgers has given the Big East very little. Through St. John's, the Big East already owns the New York basketball market. Meanwhile, Rutgers football has generally been unable to deliver any ratings in New York, due to their being generally terrible through the years, and thus the Big East hasn't really benefitted from them. However, if Rutgers were to leave for the Big Ten, the Big East would get a huge opportunity. Because the Big Ten would have been eliminated as an option for Notre Dame, the Big East would likely have a conversation like this with Notre Dame:

Big East: Since Rutgers has gone, we're looking for a new football team to join the conference and we think you would be a great addition.

Notre Dame: Well thanks for the offer, but we're quite happy with our independent status and we don't think that such an arrangement would benefit us financially or athletically.

Big East: Don't be so sure. You would get five non-conference games every year, so you could keep up your rivalries. And let's face it, our conference is weak enough that you'll be able to get to a BCS bowl at least 2 out of every 3 years, so long as your coaching hires work out.

Notre Dame: Still, we would prefer independence. Joining the Big East would restrict our schedule a lot and our alumni would be very unhappy. Furthermore, we could still easily lose football revenue.

Big East: That's a shame, because if you can't join us for football, we'll have to kick you out for basketball.

Notre Dame: [mouths a few profanities] That would be unfortunate, but we can always join Conference USA or the Atlantic 10.

Big East: Well, that's an option for you, I suppose, but you should know that we'll probably be raiding those conferences for replacement teams for you and Rutgers [evil grin].

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Anyway, should Rutgers join the Big Ten, they can easily get a replacement like Memphis or someone, and they would also gain a huge amount of leverage when negotiating with Notre Dame. And that situation, I feel, is likely the reason that Notre Dame is saying that they may be forced to join a conference. Also, I really hope that leaking the idea that Rutgers is perhaps the preferred candidate is just a method of putting pressure on Notre Dame to join the Big Ten, because if Rutgers actually came to the Big Ten, it would really suck.
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An Analysis of Conference Strength Since 1969

By Zone Left — January 26th, 2010 at 3:57 PM — 11 comments
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Ed: I looked a long ways back and am at convinced this topic hasn’t been “diarized” recently.  Many apologies if it has—may there be some original ideas in my writing.  This is all for fun and to keep my mind occupied during the dark of the offseason.

Currently, the conventional wisdom among many college football fans and pundits is that the SEC is the sport’s premier conference with the Big 10, Pac 10, and Big 12 in some order behind the SEC and the ACC and Big East rounding out the six BCS automatic qualifiers in terms of overall strength.  However, this was not always the case.  In the early portion of this millennium, the Pac 10 was considered by many to be the weakest conference while the Big 10 and SEC dueled at the top for perceived supremacy.  Back when Woody and Bo stalked the sidelines, many thought the Big 10 or the SWC was easily the best conference.

What I’d like to examine with this diary is which conference was the best conference at various periods since the modern era of Michigan football began, which I’ll use as Bo Schembechler’s arrival.  If conference supremacy has changed, why has this occurred?  I’m not a subscriber to the “fast athletes come from the south” school, and unless something IS found in the water, I’ll likely never be convinced.  Unfortunately, neither of these items is easy to prove.

I’m going to begin with the prevailing notion of conference supremacy, and I plan to examine reasons things may have changed in a later diary.  The best way to accomplish this analysis is to create a statistical model capturing the strength of each team based on their accomplishments, their opponents’ accomplishments, and their opponents’ opponents’ accomplishments to include margin of victory.  My statistical prowess leads me to believe that Jeff Sagarin needs to create this model for me.  My repeated visits to his house have only resulted in a restraining order, so until he creates or I can find a historical statistical model, I have to use another means to ascertain dominance. 

Sagarin’s approach (statistical modeling) is clearly an excellent approach because it evaluates each team and provides some means to objectively analyze each team’s performance.  Human polls are notoriously inaccurate because they are based on preconceived notions and have obvious inertia—humans tend to keep teams that are rated highly up high after losses and don’t move teams up quickly who are rated lower to start with.  Furthermore, “name brand teams,” such as Michigan and Ohio State tend to start out rated more highly, which lends itself to a bias in final polling.  In other words, teams who start high tend to stay high relative to teams with similar resumes who start lower.  Unfortunately, I am not a mathematical genius, so an in-depth statistical analysis is out.

Using team records for the analysis does not provide useful data for two reasons.  First, because conference opponents play an even number of games and each conference game must be a win, loss, or tie—each conference will have an overall .500 record in-conference.  The Pac 10 plays a round robin schedule, so ten teams played nine games this year totaling ninety games, with ninety wins and ninety losses.  The only win percentage variation between conferences would be out of conference games, but without a way to objectively evaluate those opponents, I cannot use those games to evaluate a conference’s strength.  Second, records can be deceiving in conference.  The ACC has tended to have many teams gravitate towards .500.  However, those .500 records could indicate many excellent teams knocking each other off or a protracted cripple fight. 

Long story, but I feel it necessary to point out that I understand the weaknesses of the analysis to follow.  Records without extensive statistical analysis are not useful, so I’ve decided to use human polls, hoping that the relatively large sample size (forty plus years) and using end of season polls will limit (although not eliminate) the human bias.  The major weakness of this analysis is that a Top 25 poll ignores mid and lower level teams.  Conferences are made of top, mid, and low level teams, not just top teams present in annual rankings.  I played with using bowl results to include mid level teams, but the bowl season was too small until recently, and I believe bowl matchups are not inherently even.  A great example is 6-6 MSU facing 8-4 Texas Tech this year.  Bowls are based on conference contracts and grabs at TV ratings and ticket sales, not facilitating equal matchups between conferences. 

My methodology follows: 

1.  I’m using the AP Top 25 polls from 1969 through the final poll in 2009. 

2.  The #1 rated team in the poll receives 1 point, #2 gets 2 points, and so on.  Prior to 1989, the AP ranked 20 teams, and has ranked 25 teams ever since.  Because conferences have unranked teams,  they must be counted in some way.  I’ve decided to count each unranked team as five points below the lowest ranked team in the poll (25 points prior to 1989, 30 points thereafter).  While this does inflate the rankings of conferences with several truly crappy teams, I have no way to objectively evaluate the quality of 1983 Northwestern versus 1983 Vanderbilt.  I feel this method is relatively fair, because each conference receives the same treatment. 

I thought about rating 25% of unranked teams at 30, 50% at 50, and 25% at 75, but that seemed to complicated and error prone.

3.  I only used current BCS conferences.  It’s too difficult to try to measure the smaller conferences because so few teams were ranked over time.  Each team counts against their current conference.  The SWC doesn’t exist today, so they are not the best conference anymore. 

4.  The conference with the lowest average ranking wins that year.  The lowest per decade wins decade, etc. 

5.  Thanks to http://homepages.cae.wisc.edu/~dwilson/rfsc/history/APpolls.txt for the historical polls.

The decade by decade encapsulation follows:

1969-1978

1979-1988

1989-1998

1999-2009

Overall

ACC

23.7333

21.1000

23.2750

24.4470

23.1707

Big 10

20.045455

20.672727

23.781818

23.63636364

22.07317

Big 12

19.325

20.475

23.558333

23.88636364

21.86179

Big East

23.683333

22.333333

27.616667

26.89772727

25.17581

Pac 10

21.02

21.34

25.23

24.96363636

23.18293

SEC

19.766667

20.091667

22.808333

22.5

21.32114

 

Overall, it’s clear that human voters prefer the accomplishments of the SEC to every other conference, particularly in the new millennium.  The 22.5 average ranking has only been equaled seven times by every other conference COMBINED.  They have also had the lowest average six out of the past nine years and 15 total years, which is the most of any conference (the Big 10 is second with 12). 

I actually thought the Big 10 would come out stronger earlier and weaker later on.  However, based on this analysis, the Big 10 is in a solid second place behind the SEC today, and would be second overall if it weren’t for the teams that would become the Big 12 having an excellent period from 1969-1978.  The Big 10’s weakness was primarily due to the bottom portion of the conference.  Indiana and Minnesota were only ranked twice, for example.  The Big 10 rated highest from 1998-today five times, second only to the SEC, but ranked behind both the SEC and Big 12 for the first twenty years of my analysis.

The ACC is not a strong conference historically, but it benefits the most from my methodology.  FSU and Miami (that Miami) were not part of the ACC for a large portion of their respective runs, but count towards the ACC’s point totals—which is why they are second place from 1989-1998.  Two very strong teams move the ranking for a conference significantly.

The Big East is essentially a default.  The conference didn’t even exist until the 1991 season, and two of their members, UConn and South Florida didn’t play D-1A until the 21st Century.  I didn’t count them until they joined D-1A, for what it’s worth.

West Coast bias has a basis, regardless of whether it is valid or not.  Despite USC’s strength the past decade, the conference only beat the Big East, and only beat the Big East over time as well.

I spent way too much time on this project, and plan to examine why there may have been any changes in a later diary.  Please ask any questions in the comments and I’ll try to see if the analysis has any answers.

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