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Hello, I'm a First time/ long time (if sports-talk radio lingo applies to the blogging realm). I was intrigued by the mention made in the "Barwis effect" entry and early main page recruiting articles of the comparison of Colt McCoy and Tate Forcier. Although the original comparison was simply about size and stature, I couldnt help but thinking that if Tate becomes the caliber player that Coly McCoy is, we will be in pretty good shape. Upon the first thought, they both have the "pretty boy" type look, first names that could be nothing other than big-time quarterback's names, impressive H.S. stats and athletic abilities that turn eyes. But after a decent look and more in depth analysis, the similarities are few and far between. McCoy was a 3 star recruit, sought after as a passer into a Texas offense with Vince Young that was comparable to the Penn State of recent years, what I consider to be a Pro style/ spread hybrid. Here's what he looked like out of High School.
Wt: 180 lbs
Forty: 4.72 secs
Bench reps: 12
Vertical: 29 inches
Shuttle: 4.85 secs
(courtesy of Rivals)
Now I highly doubt he grew 2 inches after high school, 'nuff said. He was redshirted as a true Freshman, then started as a RS Freshman pretty much by default (Vince Young left early and the other guy graduated.) Here are his first season numbers. Not bad at all.
Now an unnecessary review of Tate. (according to Rivals)
Wt: 184 lbs
Forty: 4.55 secs
Vertical: 35 inches
Shuttle: 4.41 secs
Now I can either look at this brief overview and say that Tate is faster, quicker and a more accurate passer (77% his junior year) compared to Colt McCoy, is going to be amazing, and will have incredible numbers and lead us to a 10-3 season and a bowl victory as Colt did his first season. Or we can separate the apples from the oranges and simple take it for what its worth, a note worthy comparison that only time will tell if it has any validity.
would like to hear some predictions on the MIIIIIIIIIIIICH football season this year. I've heard a lot of douche bags say the wouldn't win 4 games, which is why I call them douche bags. But I was wondering what everyone else thought. I don't get a chance to check out this e-blog to often and I'm sure this has already been asked, but give me some predictions, MO-FO's. I'm liking 7-8 wins this year. Here is the schedge and my thoughts...
09/05 ... W. Michigan -- 3:30pm WIN, pick the over on this game.
09/12 ... Notre Dame -- 3:30pm WIN Jimmah! will throw 8 picks
09/19 ... E. Michigan -- 12:00pm WIN Sorry Ronald Jonathan English, you and your eagles can't cut it.
09/26 ... Indiana -- 12:00pm WIN, by 40.
10/03 ... at Michigan State -- Loss/Win MSU could show up to this game 2-2 on the year, if they do, MICH will lose, if they are 4-0 like they all assume and wet their jorts about, MICH will win because the sparty's are due for a melt down.
10/10 ... at Iowa -- 8:00pm Loss, pink locker room? GUEERS.
10/17 ... Delaware State -- WIN (i hope)
10/24 ... Penn State -- Loss
10/31 ... at Illinois -- Loss
11/07 ... Purdue -- WIN, with a hooker and ladder, BITCH.
11/14 ... at Wisconsin -- WIN (Wisconsin sucks we all know it)
11/21 ... Ohio State -- Loss or win, just epinion.
thanks to GBMW for the schedge, not only informative BUT ALSO GOODT..
1. Vegas and other line settors are not smarter than any other analyst. There is no secret they are hiding. They are smart and do intensive research, but the game prediction you get from Brian is just as good a guess as the line they set.
2. They set the line to get even action not predict the game. A good game to watch this year will be the Florida-Tenn game. The line right now is set at 24. If I had to guess the guys in the backroom looked at all the data and said this game looks to be a 18 point spread. Then they discuss the other factors such as the perception Meyer wants to run it up on Kiffin and now he's got some key injuries let's jack it up to 24 (we need someone to bet on Tenn). As game week appproaches and the stories come back up and Herbstreit is on Sportscenter saying this could get ugly expect the line to grow and grow. You may not win but if you wait until kickoff and bet Tenn you are with the "smart" money.
3. The public is not smart. You may think that gamblers are reading Phil Steele and analyzing each teams strength and weaknesses. The truth is most are addicts or borderline gambling addicts that work all week long wake up Saturday morning look at some lines, call their buddies watch Herbstreit and start firing off bets to their bookie. Listen to the callers on The Ticket talk about UM, they know so little it is frightening. Listen to Terry Foster he's paid to know what's going on and he offers up garbage. People that are not gambler would be amazed at how little info a guy has before he plops $100 down. It's a different world.
4. Opportunity is there. I am not here to tell you that using my system will make you money or that it is a good investment strategy, but if you are going to bet, I think this may help you. Make your strike early in the year with some under the radar teams. If you do your Phil Steele research and look around the internet for team previews and find a team you think might do well hunt down that teams "MgoBlog" and learn all you can about that team. The lines early in the year are generally pretty conservative as nobody has any current info on a team so the lines are based on historical perspective (USC must be good) and preseason predictions( Minnesota returns 18 starters) so if you feel a team could break out you can get good value. A great example was 06 Mich coming off the disaster in 05. Most people here thought Mich would rebound, but the national media continued to pile on Lloyd. Made a ton of dough on that game. There seems to be another team that around here that is getting piled on nationally. If you think Mich is going to come out with a vengeance bet the early lines and pound Mich early. The W. Mich line will be pretty blah, if they come out and put up 50 on them people will take notice but the lines won't change much. They pound ND it's all over. Then the perception is it's Mich they are back and it won't make sense to bet them the rest of the year.
5. Name team vs "scrub" Keep a look out for games involving BCS vs Non BCS teams. A great example would be Nevada vs Notre Dame in Week 1. Everyone loves ND this year, who knows anything about Nevada??(That's that team that plays that wacky pistol right?) Truth is Nevada has a ton of players back and a stud at QB. With Michigan looming the next week for ND you may get great value on Nevada.
6. Hometown bookies are ripe for overbetting. Here in the D a bookie will move lines more fluidly than in Vegas as they have less of a sample size. A lot of UM homers will bet Mich regardless so the bookie may have to move lines that may not be recognized nationally. Good value if you want to bet against the Lions UM or Sparty.
Good Luck this year.
In terms of whether the division's top teams improved, the answer is undoubtedly yes. The Tigers and Twins both made moves that certainly upgraded their rotation and lineup respectively, while the White Sox probably improved, assuming that Peavy actually plays this year (mind you, if the Sox were going to gut their farm system and trade Richard, they probably should have gone after Halladay first, but I'm not complaining because that would have sucked to epic proportions). However, I feel that this criteria is generally irrelevant because no team improved enough to take a run at the Wild Card should they fail to win the division, and the playoffs are a whole new season where the most talented team often doesn't win.
Another criteria that can be used is whether the overall level of talent in the division improved. To evaluate this, I'll look at all Major Leaguers acquired and lost by teams in the division:
Chicago White Sox
Gained: Jake Peavy, Mark Kotsay
Lost: Clayton Richard
Gained: Justin Masterson
Lost: Cliff Lee, Victor Martinez, Ryan Garko, Rafael Betancourt, Ben Francisco
Gained: Jarrod Washburn
Lost: Luke French
Kansas City Royals
Gained: Yuniesky Betancourt, Ryan Freel, Josh Anderson*
Gained: Orlando Cabrera
*Josh Anderson is not being listed as being lost by the Tigers because he had been designated for assignment before being traded. However, the Royals have stated that when he reports, he will be called up, so he is in the Majors for the Royals, but the Minors for the Tigers. Brian Anderson is not being listed as lost by the White Sox for the same reason.Overall, the division appears to have actually lost talent (courtesy of the Cleveland Indians). I will argue that the quality of pitching in the division remained at approximately the same level, counting Cliff Lee as equal to Jake Peavy (as Peavy won't start for awhile) and Clayton Richard, Luke French, and Rafael Betancourt as equal in value to Jarrod Washburn. However, the hitting has definitely gotten worse, with Victor Martinez and Ryan Garko being the players of note leaving and Orlando Cabrera the only player of note gained.
Now, while the level of talent in the division may have actually been reduced, it does not mean that the division will necessarily perform worse against other divisions. To evaluate this, I will take a look at every individual team and evaluate what effect their moves is likely to have on their record:
Chicago White Sox
Chicago definitely improved their rotation with Jake Peavy, but his impact will be limited as he won't be in the rotation until late this month at the earliest. He should be good for a couple extra wins.
The Indians have definitely gotten worse by trading away almost every good player on their team. However, the impact of these moves could be mitigated in terms of wins if they play at their talent level. Statistically, before their deadline moves, the Indians were under-performing by five games according to Bill James' Pythagoream Theorem of Baseball (expected winning %=RS2/[RS2+RA2). If the Indians play at the level projected by this for the rest of the year, they probably still will lose games at a greater rate than they are now, but the effect on their record will be strongly mitigated.
Washburn solidifies the rotation, but this will only transfer into a couple more wins unless the Tigers offense reawakens. Hopefully, they can pick up a bat off of waivers.
Kansas City Royals
The Royals managed to pick up three players that other teams were just trying to unload. Unless Betancourt manages to figure out how to hit, the impact of their moves will likely be negligible.
The Twins managed to pick up a quality bat to hit in front of Mauer and Morneau, something that may provide a big boost to their offense, which is currently sixth in runs scored in the AL (currently, they're behind Cleveland, which will probably change soon). However, they have a mediocre pitching staff, so while improved, their team still has holes. That said, with Peavy out until late this month and Detroit still unable to hit (although Guillen has been highly impressive since returning and may be the boost the team needs), the trade for Cabrera may produce more wins than any other trade in the division.
Overall, it appears that the division will perform slightly better against the rest of the league thanks to moves by the Tigers, Twins, and White Sox. That said, the division really is not that much better than it was before the deadline, with Cleveland surrendering any prospect of winning for this year, next year, and probably the year after that.
So at this point I am having many issues with finding enough information for schools not named Michigan before 2004. I've had to skip one Penn State class and am sure I'll have to do it with other schools. Fortunately, Purdue and Minnesota are mailing me their information. I've got requests out at many schools trying to get information. So at this point, I've got two Michigan classes in a row, and then back to the grind of finding information. Enjoy.
Edit: It's randomly bolded, and I can't get the editor here to unbold parts of it. I give up again. When I write my posts in dreamweaver they are supposed to come out perfectly!
Set the Stage:
Head Coach: Lloyd Carr
2001 Performance: 8-4-0, 2nd Big Ten, 20th Overall
New Blood: 23
Mini Recruiting Board Lives Here:
The 2002 class was recruited off of a mediocre 8-4 campaign in 2001, which succumbed to Tennessee in the Citrus Bowl. Lloyd aimed for a very balanced class here, though a light on the line on both sides of the ball. The emphasis on skill positions was expected to pay off in spades. This class contained 13 in-state players, showing Lloyd's preference for Michigan Men to come from Michigan.
How They Did:
Overall Record: 47-16
Varsity Letters: 61
Graduated on Team: 18
Started a Game: 17
Full Eligibility: 15
5th Year Seniors: 12
- Jason Avant, WR, All-Conference 2005
- Dave Harris, ILB, All-Conference 2006
- Gabriel Watson, DT, All-Conference 2005 2006
- Jason Avant, 2006, 4th Round, 109 Overall
- Steve Breaston, 2007, 5th Round, 142 Overall
- Dave Harris, 2007, 2nd Round, 47 Overall
- Gabriel Watson, 2006, 4th Round, 107 Overall
Of the 23 students drafted, 18 graduated, 17 started a game, 15 used their full eligibility, and 12 played as redshirt seniors.
I think this class justifies the use of the man-game starting ratio. This team had an extremely weak starting percentage, barely over 15%, but a high winning percentage, ~75%. The senior season, at 7-5, reflects the starting percentage well. All other classes for Michigan within this time period should have a higher starting percentage, and better senior seasons. This was nowhere near Carr's best performing class.
The lean of this class was towards its skill players in recruiting, and a couple of strong players came from it. Steve Breaston and Jason Avant were both strong receivers and anchors for their senior campaigns. However, the linemen, even though they had less presence, had 43% of the starts for the class. Gabe Watson, DT, won two All-Conference First Team honors, and was drafted just before Jason Avant in the '06 draft. Of the skill players, only two wide receivers an an inside linebacker (Dave Harris) stood out, while Gabe Watson, Reuben Riley, Mark Bihl, and Rondell Biggs all became strong presences on the line during their respective senior campaigns.