Hoke was top notch at this aspect of his job.
Well...I am bored...antsy for the football season to start and it seems that my overly fertile brain is having one moderately good idea after another. Here is a way for me to create content and score some points [enlightened self interest at work] and mostly I am looking forward to really learning some new things about the program and its history from a different angle....
So why not discuss the best player to wear each number in a Michigan uniform. Since we want to save the best for last, we are going to begin with #99 and I will post a couple every day for us to discuss and debate. I doubt that I will be able to give the definitive answer on any of these lists. I am really looking forward to learning from the trully obsessed among us.
So here it goes every player ever to wear #99, sorted by year then name:
[As per some very good suggestions, I deleted multiple entries for the same name unless there was a position change, and the other extraneous info...hopefully this is easier to read]
Name Pos. Year Letter Class
99 Smith, Jeffrey A. E 1959-61
99 Woodward, Paul T 1962
99 Woodward, Paul G 1963
99 Buzynski, John T 1964
99 Buzynski, John C 1965
99 Sirosky, Dennis LB 1966
99 Prusiecki, John DT 1968
99 Beckman, Thomas C. DT 1969-71
99 Klein, John A. DT 1972
99 Coyne, Michael T. _ 1973
99 Nault, Steve DE 1974
99 Knickerbocker, Steven G. PK 1975
99 Tedesco, Dominic DE 1975-7
99 Smith, Lewis DT 1976
99 Virgil, Bryan PK 1977
99 Keller, Tom OLB 1978-9
99 Thompson, Robert DE - TE 1978-81
99 Schlopy, Todd PK 1981-4
99 Thompson, Robert OLB 1982
99 Bostic, Carlitos OLB 1983-7
99 Hutchinson, Chris DL 1988
99 Stark, Randy OLB 1988-91
99 Hedding, Kevin TE 1989-91
99 Bolach, Mark OL / DL 1992
99 Denson, Damon DT 1993-4
99 Peristeris, Paul P 1993-6
99 Smokevitch, Jeff ILB 1996-8
99 Frysinger, Jake LB 1997
99 Bryant, Kevin WR 1998
99 Frysinger, Jake DE 1998-2001
99 Stejskal, Andy WR 2001-3
99 Woods, Pierre DL 2002-3
99 Woods, Pierre OLB 2004-5
99 Buckman, Sam K 2006-8
99 Patterson, Adam DE 2006-8
Without taking taking anything away from your chance to suggest names, the one that stands out to me immediately is All-American Chris Hutchinson. What do you guys think?
As I recounted in another thread, if I close another deal in August [August will already be a good month FWIW] I will be allowed to buy one of those high end blue football jerseys where they will sew your name and a number of your choosing onto the jersey. My natural instinct would be to pick #2 for Woodson or #21 for [correction: Biakabutuka] Biankabituka [crosses my fingers and hope that is spelt right without having to look it up]...but my wife says...wouldn't it be so romantic if you used the our anniversay date #19. I am not opposed to picking the number to score hubby hero points...but I wondered who actually wore the number...
Well in one of those links you dump into your favourites list and never use came to mind...from the Bentley Historical Library which has all manners of information stored about every UM athlete in numerous sports. They have a little tool that allows you to plug in a number and voila! out pops every player to ever wear number 19...so here is the complete list:
No. Name Pos. Year Letter Class Hgt. Wgt. Hometown State High School
19 Barringer, Willis DB 2003 v So. 5-11 193 Toledo OH Scott
19 Barringer, Willis S 2004 v Jr. 6-0 201 Toledo OH Scott
19 Barringer, Willis S 2005 v Sr. 6-0 202 Toledo OH Scott
19 Barringer, Willis S 2006 v 5th 6-0 210 Toledo OH Scott
19 Bellamy, Ronald WR 1999 v Fr. 6-1 175 New Orleans LA Archbishop Shaw
19 Bellamy, Ronald WR 2000 v So. 6-0 179 New Orleans LA Archbishop Shaw
19 Bellamy, Ronald WR 2001 v Jr. 6-0 193 New Orleans LA Archbishop Shaw
19 Bellamy, Ronald WR 2002 v Sr. 6-0 199 New Orleans LA Archbishop Shaw
19 Bennett, Arthur L. G 1938 sa 1940 5-8 170 Schenectady NY _
19 Bergeron, Robert PK 1981 _ So. 5-8 145 Fort Wayne IN Ft. Wayne
19 Bergeron, Robert PK 1982 _ Jr. 5-8 145 Fort Wayne IN Ft. Wayne
19 Bergeron, Robert PK 1983 v Sr. 5-8 160 Fort Wayne IN Bishop Luers
19 Bergeron, Robert PK 1984 v Sr. 5-8 160 Fort Wayne IN Bishop Luers
19 Boden, Marshall H. E 1926 ama _ _ 171 Detroit MI _
19 Boden, Marshall H. E 1927 ama _ _ 177 Detroit MI _
19 Bradford, Wesley E. HB 1951 v Jr. 5-6 155 Troy OH _
19 Brown, James J. HB 1943 sa N 5-9 155 St. Ignace MI _
19 Brown, Robert J. C 1925 v _ _ 183 Ypsilanti MI _
19 Calandrino, Gasper DB 1978 v Sr. 6-1 193 Grand Rapids MI Forest Hills
19 Cederberg, Jon TB 1971 _ So. 5-10 177 Plymouth MI Plymouth
19 Cederberg, Jon TB 1972 jv Jr. 5-10 177 Plymouth MI Plymouth
19 Cederberg, Jon TB 1973 V Sr. 5-10 185 Plymouth MI Plymouth
19 Daniels, John W. DB 1970 v So. 6-4 192 Newark OH Newark H.S.
19 Denise, Theodore E. G 1940 sa 1943 5-11 187 Lansing MI _
19 Eastman, Harry, Jr. HB 1930 v _ _ 166 Detroit MI _
19 Eastman, Harry, Jr. HB 1931 vr 1932 5-10 168 Detroit MI Bryan High, Dallas TX
19 Ellison, John WR 1989 _ So. 5-11 160 Delran NJ Delran
19 Ellison, John SE 1990 _ Jr. 5-10 181 Delran NJ Delran
19 Ellison, John WR 1991 v Sr. 5-10 181 Delran NJ Delran
19 Fonde, Henry HB 1945 v _ 5-8 165 Knoxville TN _
19 Fonde, Henry HB 1946 v D 5-8 162 Knoxville TN _
19 Fonde, Henry HB 1947 v Sr. 5-8 158 Knoxville TN _
19 Forcier, Jason QB 2005 _ Fr. 6-2 208 San Diego Calif. St. Augustine
19 Forcier, Jason QB 2006 v So. 6-2 218 San Diego CA St. Augustine
19 Foster, Brian DB 1990 _ So. 5-9 178 Columbia MO Rockridge
19 Foster, Brian FS 1991 _ Jr. 5-9 178 Columbia MO Rock Bridge
19 Foster, Brian FS 1992 v Sr. 5-10 184 Columbia MO Rock Bridge
19 Gillette, Mike QB / P 1985 v Fr. 6-1 185 St. Joseph MI St. Joseph
19 Gillette, Mike PK / P 1986 v So. 6-1 185 St. Joseph MI St. Joseph
19 Gillette, Mike PK 1987 v Jr. 6-1 185 St. Joseph MI St. Joseph
19 Gillette, Mike PK 1988 v Sr. 6-1 194 St. Joseph MI St. Joseph
19 Gilmore, George M. T 1920 ama _ _ 170 Ann Arbor MI _
19 Hall, David QB 1980 jv Fr. 6-4 203 Livonia MI _
19 Hamilton, Remy PK 1992 _ Fr. 6-1 195 Boca Raton FL Spanish River
19 Hamilton, Remy PK 1993 _ So. 6-0 190 Boca Raton FL Spanish River
19 Hamilton, Remy FB 1994 v Jr. 6-0 191 Boca Raton FL Spanish River
19 Hamilton, Remy PK 1995 v Sr. 6-0 196 Boca Raton FL Spanish River
19 Hamilton, Remy PK 1996 v Sr. 6-0 193 Boca Raton FL Spanish River
19 Heren, Dieter DB 1982 _ Fr. 6-3 190 Fort Wayne IN Snider
19 Heren, Dieter DB 1983 v So. 6-3 200 Fort Wayne IN Snider
19 Herrala, Scott DB 1987 v Jr. 5-11 180 Muskegon MI Muskegon Catholic
19 Hewlett, Richard QB 1979 v Fr. 6-1 185 Plymouth MI Plymouth-Salem
19 Hozer, Stanley FB 1928 v _ _ 170 Muskegon MI _
19 Jacobs, Benjamin P. QB 1932 vr 1935 5-10 155 Sault Ste. Marie MI _
19 Jacobs, Benjamin P. QB 1933 _ 1935 5-9 155 Sault Ste. Marie MI _
19 Jacobs, Phillip H. HB 1934 _ 1937 5-10 1/2 160 Sault Ste. Marie MI _
19 Johnson, Zach CB 2007 _ Fr. 6-2 188 Morena MI Morenci
19 Johnson,Zach CB 2008 _ So./Fr. 6-2 197 Morenci MI Morenci
19 Kennedy, Charles F., Jr. HB 1941 sa 1944 6-1 180 Van Wert OH _
19 Knickerbocker, Stanley HB 1952 v So. 5-10 165 Chelsea MI _
19 Knickerbocker, Stanley HB 1953 r Jr. 5-10 165 Chelsea MI _
19 Knickerbocker, Stanley HB 1954 v Sr. 5-11 173 Chelsea MI _
19 Knickerbocker, Stanley RHB 1955 v Sr. 5-11 173 Chelsea MI _
19 Knode, Robert T. QB 1921 v _ _ _ Baltimore MD _
19 Kunow, Walter T 1923 v 1925 6-0 204 Detroit MI Eastern
19 Labun, Nick PK 1976 jv Jr. 5-11 172 Rockford IL Jefferson
19 Leith, Jerry HB 1958 r Sr. 5-9 167 Ann Arbor MI _
19 Leith, Jerry HB 1959 v Sr. 5-7 168 Ann Arbor MI Ann Arbor
19 Lillie, Walter I. G 1935 _ 1938 _ 187 Grand Haven MI _
19 Marzonie, George A. G 1936 v 1938 5-9 178 Flint MI _
19 Nelson, David M. HB 1939 sa 1942 5-8 165 Detroit MI Northwestern
19 Peterson, Donald W. HB 1949 v So. 5-10 175 Racine WI _
19 Priest, Raymond B 1929 amav 1932 _ 168 Battle Creek MI _
19 Raimey, David HB 1960 v So. 5-10 190 Dayton OH Roosevelt
19 Raimey, David HB 1961 v Jr. 5-10 195 Dayton OH Roosevelt
19 Raimey, David HB 1962 v Sr. 5-10 195 Dayton OH Roosevelt
19 Snyder, Mike WB 1976 _ So. 5-10 185 Westland MI John Glenn
19 Sorenson, Eric OE 1967 _ So. 6-0 188 Royal Oak MI _
19 Sorenson, Eric LB 1968 _ Sr. 6-0 197 Ecorse MI Detroit Cathedral
19 Souchek, Donald 0. HB 1948 r Jr. 5-9 180 Onekama MI _
19 St. Clair, Julius B. E 1917 _ 1920 _ 165 Duluth MN Duluth Central High
19 Trosko, Fred HB 1937 v 1940 5-9 154 Flint MI Northern
19 Truitt, Darrell Wolf 1974 jv So. 6-1 190 Cincinnati OH Oak Hills
19 Truitt, Darrell WB 1975 jv Jr. 6-0 190 Cincinnati OH Oak Hills
19 Van Pelt, Tad DB 1999 _ So. 5-10 179 Owosso MI Corunna
19 Vick, Ernie (Henry) C 1919 v _ _ 185 Toledo OH Scott
19 Ward, Carl HB 1964 v So. 5-9 178 Cincinnati OH Taft
19 Ward, Carl HB 1965 v Jr. 5-9 177 Cincinnati OH Taft
19 Ward, Carl RHB 1966 v Sr. 5-11 178 Cincinnati OH Taft
19 Wenzlau, William HB 1944 _ N 5-10 170 Toledo OH _
19 Williams, Bryan CB 1994 _ Jr. 5-9 172 Detroit MI Southwestern
19 Williams, Bryan CB 1995 v Sr. 5-10 178 Detroit MI Southwestern
19 Williams, Virgil WB 1977 _ So. 5-10 185 Lorain OH Lorain
19 Wright, Aaron WR 1997 _ So. 6-0 172 Highland Village TX Marcus
19 Zeiger, Harold M. QB 1916 v 1917 _ 142 Pueblo CO Ruebb
19 Zieger, Harold QB 1915 ama _ 5-4 145 Pueblo CO _
I am inclined to pick some obscure name from the list like Stanley Hozer...but the elder Forcier stands out as does Bellamy's name...is there any other that I should not pass up?
This is from a non-Florida fan replying to those JA Florida fans that thing they are the best team ever and thinking that Meyer won't leave their team for notre lame...
I remember you ignorant "football fans" down there in Florida (where I grew up and lived for 23 years) saying the same crap when SS was going to leave. "He isnt going anywhere, he wont leave us!". Yeah well, we all know what happened there. Meyer will leave, you "football fans" know it as well as I do. Florida fans have got to be the most ignorant waste of space in the college football world ANYWHERE. Half of you cant name anyone on the team unless he is a stand out star like Tebow or Harvin. And god help us all if you have to be given the time to name anyone other than STAND OUTS on anyone elses teams. You wear the colors and do that stupid chomp but most of you dont even know what time kick off is on Saturday, its PATHETIC. Like I said, I like most of my life in Florida and went to school down there, I know what I'm talking about. you win 3 national titles in 100 years and think you are a powerhouse while most of your team is being thrown in jail and half the "fans" dont even know what quarter it is at the games because you are all drunk. "na na na na.....GATOR BAIT"....WHAT? That is the DUMBEST chant I've ever heard. Think about what you are saying MORONS. GATOR BAIT? BAIT?............BAIT? BAIT is used to CATCH something. So in other words, you call your opponents BAIT and your players are the dumb animals that run up to bite the BAIT and get caught............yeah, that chant just strikes fear into the hearts of every IDIOT out there.....WTF. "come on gators, get up and go!".....um......forgive me if I'm a little rude with this one but I think the whole country has done you idiots a solid not laughing at your uniforms all these years, they look like they were designed by queer eye or something, cursive "gator" on the side of a bright orange helment with that almost neon blue? Yeah, you guys are scary to say the LEAST. If that was not bad enough you all sing together, "come on gators, get up and go!!!!!", I imagine Andy Dick singing that every time I hear it. Your team is a joke, your fans are football STUPID and your games are mostly just a big redneck frat party. I've actually heard this from a Florida GRAD and "big gator fan",...and I quote, "we would have beat you if you wouldnt HAD scored that last touchdown"........YOU THINK? MORONS......
One last thing about that chant and those uniforms. There are other things that tie into both of those, how about SS on the sideline with that SAME young QB all those years that never played a snap but you never saw old Steve without his lil boy toy. And whats with your players kissing each other all the time? I mean, even the guys on ESPN have said something about it during games. If you ask me, something is way off down there, WAY off.
As Michigan fans get ready for year two of this new fangled offense, it strikes me that the old measures of success are no longer applicable.
In days of old when the ball was rarely in the air, just making receptions was a thing of beauty. But now with every other play being a swing pass or a slip screen, simply catching the ball is not enough.
Case in point, Marvelous Matavious Odoms. He, being the record holder of receptions, has yet to actually impress me. At least not on a consistent basis. Yes, he had 49 receptions. But what did he do with them? He averaged 9 yards per reception. He scored 1 touchdown. I yawned.
Because what you're not seeing in those stats is the number of drops he had. You're not seeing the number of times he gained 3 yards when we needed 4 on third down. And you're not seeing his pathetic work on returns.
Cumulative stats mean less and less these days. Back around the time I was born, teams played 10 games and maybe a bowl. Now some teams play 14 per year.
Texas Tech seems to set new passing records every year. But their quarterback went undrafted. For a while, John Navarre held most of the passing records at Michigan. John Navarre was probably the 5th or 6th best QB I've personally seen suit up for the maize and blue. (Brady, Griese, Harbaugh, Grbac, Collins, Henne, argue amongst yourselves)
The problem with these stats is that they only keep track of the good, without penalty of the bad. What would be much more telling are stats that include efficiencies.
"Aha, but what about the one hit wonders?!" I can hear you say. "What about the LB who catches 1 yard passes on the goal line for TD's? Should he be considered the best receiver?" No you fool. But he should be given props.
No. Stop thinking so one-dimensionally. This is a college full of engineers. So find one, buy him some beers, and get him to explain how one point does not a histogram make, my young padawan.
There is some consciousness of the need for better stats. Increasingly, commentators rely on things such as yards per carry or yards per attempt. These are better. It's two pieces of information combined into one. It's like Ernest Rutherford looking at the plum pudding model and saying, "Wait, we can do better!" But they're far from perfect.
This is why QB's have more complicated efficiency ratings. This is why Brian complains about redzone scoring efficiency. People know that flats stats are useless. (BTW redzone scoring efficiency should be points scored in the redzone per redzone trip. Yeah, it's not out of 100 %, but it's an easy number to understand. A team with a score of 3.5 is not as good as a team with a 6.8. Or if you don't have a kicker and go for two every time you could get a score of 8.0)
So let me be your Neil's Bohr and suggest some stats that can take us to a deeper understanding of a receiver's value in football. If you happen to work for ABC or ESPN, please send me proper compensation for when you utilize these in your graphics.
Some of these are not of my original creation. Like Newton with the Principia, I simply gather these ideas and put my own concise twist on them to go along with my own inventions.
a) Yards per thrown at. This has three pieces of information in it. I want to know how many times he catches it, but give him a penalty for drops, and find out what he does with it after catching it.
b) TD's per redzone thrown at. This tells you if the WR is a big target who can get open in close space or box out effectively.
c) Conversion Efficiency = (receiving yards minus (half the yards to go)) multiplied by the down number per thrown at. Gaining 12 yards on 4th and 10 is a 28, Gaining 6 yards on 1st down is a 1. 6 yards on 3rd and 5 is a 14. Gaining 3 yards on 3rd and 8 is a -3
d)Snag and Go = (Total receiving yards/(yards BEFORE the catch)) multiplied by (receptions per thrown at). This tells you if the kid is dependable, if he's got any shake and bake. The first ratio is high for a guy like Steve Breaston, but close to one for a guy like Jason Avant. But Avant would score higher on the second ratio, just not enough to overcome his lack of YAC.
So there it is, your new measures of receiver excellence. And if you think this is over the top, wait till you see what I've got in mind for QB's. Gametracker stats will have lots more colorful graphs.
And if I get bored enough this summer, I'll even prove that these stats work by going to mgovideo and getting numbers for Braylon, Mario, and Martavious, and show you just how much work the kid needs to do.
There is an interesting article in the Wall Street Journal about congress deciding the fairness of the BCS System.
If anyone is interested: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124692993074303505.html
Whenever the BCS comes up there is always a lot of talk and a lot of disagreement between what is "fair" and what is best for college football. I think most college football fans would agree that a playoff would be ideal. The argument against of course being it takes away from the most meaningful regular season in all of sports, where all of a sudden one or 2 losses doesn't knock a team out of a chance to win the national championship. I agree that a 16 or 32 team playoff takes a bit away from the regular season, and all of a sudden that O$U U$C game doesn't mean as much early in the season. Maybe there is a way to get the best of both worlds...
Thus, my proposal: How bout a 4 team playoff? The 4 best teams in the country in a semi final and a final. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't remember there being a year where more than 4 teams had a legitamate beef about getting snubbed out of the BCS title game. With 4 teams fighting for the chance at the championship, the regular season remains just as important, while the Utah or Boise State of the season that goes undefeated will have a chance to earn a spot in the National Championship game even if they are 4th in the BCS rakings
Hi everyone. This is my first diary entry. It has absolutely nothing to do with Michigan, but I hope that you will find it interesting and would appreciate any feedback that you may have. So anyway, here it goes:
Dave Dombrowski has been the GM and President of the Detroit Tigers since 2002. He has presided over the worst season in team history and the team's first successes in over a decade. Along the way, he has made some great moves and some abysmal ones. What he has done, however, is consistently show that he has balls. Here is an evaluation of some of the most important events of his tenure.
Firing GM Randy Smith and taking over his duties (2002) - This move was obvious and necessary. Smith had managed to destroy any hope of short term success with a variety of stupid contracts (exp. Bobby Higginson for $11.75M) and necessitated a rebuilding effort.
Tabula Rasa (2003) - Dombrowski purged the team of almost all MLB (or at least MLB ready) talent, removing all bloated contracts, for the 2003 season as part of the rebuilding effort. However, in doing so, he produced the second worst team record-wise in MLB history, something completely unacceptable.
Signing Ivan Rodriguez (2003-04 offseason) - Dombrowski's first major signing was a huge success. Pudge, who was passed on by other teams due to injury concerns, was signed to a large contract that included safeguards if he wound up being unable to play for most of a season. Pudge proved instrumental to the 2006 pennant run.
Trade for Carlos Guillen (2003-04 offseason) - This was a great move. Guillen was instrumental to the team every year minus this year. Furthermore, he is a hard worker and is willing to play injured (which he did for a lot of last year and is why he's on the DL).
Signing Ugueth Urbina and Troy Percival (2003-04 offseason) - Percival was injured in early July, 2004 and didn't play for the Tigers ever again. Urbina is in Venezuelan prison for attempted murder. Needless to say, this was not a good move.
Signing Magglio Ordonez (2004-05 offseason) - A nearly identical situation to Pudge. Ordonez provided an even bigger offensive boost than Pudge. Ordonez was also considered to be a bigger risk as he was coming off of experimental knee surgery.
Trade for Placido Polanco (2005) - The Tigers gave up Ugueth Urbina and Ramon Martinez for a consistently good hitter and a solid defender. This was a great move. It didn't hurt the Phillies too much though, as they were making room for Chase Utley.
Signing Kenny Rogers (2005-06 offseason) - Rogers was another free agent passed on by a lot of teams due to concerns over his age, health, and temperament. He was integral to the 2006 AL pennant team, but faded afterwards. His signing was another great move.
Hiring Jim Leyland (2005-06 offseason) - Getting Leyland out of retirement has been a blessing.
Gary Sheffield (2006-07 offseason) - Dombrowski traded Humberto Sanchez, our top minor league prospect, along with two other prospects for Sheffield. Then, Sheffield was offered a large extension. This deal was a complete fiasco. While none of the traded prospects panned out, Sheffield's $14M contract for this year meant that we had no money to spend on any other top free agents, which is one of the reasons that the Tigers have so many holes this year.
Extensions for Jeremy Bonderman and Nate Robertson (2007) - These extensions cost the Tigers $19.5M this year and $22.5M next year. Both pitchers have major injury problems and are unlikely to ever become full time starters ever again. Both contracts seemed reasonable, but slightly risky at the time. They turned into disasters.
Trading Jair Jurrjens for Edgar Renteria (2007-08 offseason) - This was, hands down, the worst trade of the Dombrowski era. Jurrjens is currently a solid starter for the Braves and leads the Braves with a 2.91 ERA. Renteria performed horribly for the Tigers and was not re-signed for the next season.
Trade for Miguel Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis (2007-08 offseason) - This was an excellent trade. While Willis has not panned out, neither has any of the prospects we sent Florida. Meanwhile, we got Cabrera, who is now the top hitter on our team.
Extension for Miguel Cabrera (2008) - Assuming he doesn't sustain serious injury, Cabrera will likely be part of the core of our lineup for years to come.
Extension for Dontrelle Willis (2008) - An absolute disaster. The Sheffield, Bonderman, Robertson, and Willis contracts are the reason that the Tigers have been thus far unable to sign Verlander to a long term deal.
Trading Ivan Rodriguez for Kyle Farnsworth (2008) - While I don't disagree with trading Pudge, who wanted to be traded, trading for literally any other player on the Yankees roster would have yielded more benefit to the Tigers. Farnsworth had a bloated $5.5M contract, which was paired with his consistency in giving up runs in close games.
Trading Matt Joyce for Edwin Jackson (2008-2009 offseason) - This is perhaps the best trade of the Dombrowski era. Jackson has made the front end of the Tigers' rotation one of the most formidable in the Majors and has been instrumental to the Tigers remaining in contention. Joyce was a good outfield prospect, but the Tigers are full of outfield prospects anyway so his loss is negligible.
Anyway, that concludes the summary of Dombrowski's tenure with the Tigers. If anyone feels that I missed something important, please comment.