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Editor's note: bumped from the diaries for general usefulness and excellent formatting.
EDIT: About an hour into putting this together, Germany Schultz posted a notice in the forums about the same basic thing. Good discussion, with similar info followed before I noticed it. I hope my diary will still be useful, i.e., you didn't already spend a Monday evening culling the new rosters.
So I sat down to put together the Women's Bracket for the Sweet 16 round of the ongoing M Uniform Tournament (which hopefully will continue tomorrow), and as usual with those things, began by opening up the Athletic Department's site.
On there, bright, fresh and new, were the 2009 football rosters, including the numbers assigned to incoming freshmen. NCAA 2010 players rejoice. As for the rest of us, what follows are the new men in maize and blue. As you imagine the Class of '09 winning Big Ten Titles, Heismans, and National Championships, may your imaginations now have proper numeric associations.
|16||Denard||Robinson||QB||Deerfield Beach, Fla. (Deerfield Beach)||David Cone moved to 17|
|5||Tate||Forcier||QB||San Diego, Calif. (Scripps Ranch)||Spring|
|2||Vincent||Smith||RB||Pahokee, Fla. (Pahokee)||Spring|
|28||Fitzgerald||Toussaint||RB||Youngstown, Ohio (Liberty)|
|84||Cameron||Gordon||WR||Detroit, Mich. (Inkster)||Listed as a receiver, has a receiver number. For the moment, Gordon's not a safety|
|6||Je'Ron||Stokes||WR||Philadelphia, Pa. (Northeast)||Update: changed from 4 to 6 (typo or fastest # change ever?)|
|14||Teric||Jones||SR||Detroit, Mich. (Cass Technical)|
|29||Jeremy||Gallon||SR||Apopka, Fla. (Apopka)|
|77||Taylor||Lewan||OL||Scottsdale, Ariz. (Chaparral)||Can hopefully fill Jake Long's jersey. His shoes are another matter.|
|75||Michael||Schofield||OL||Orland Park, Ill. (Carl Sandburg)|
|76||Quinton||Washington||OL||St. Stephen, S.C. (Timberland)|
|90||Anthony||LaLota||DE||Princeton, N.J. (The Hun School)|
|88||Craig||Roh||DE||Scottsdale, Ariz. (Chaparral)||Listed as an "OLB" -- ?|
|73||William||Campbell||DT||Detroit, Mich. (Cass Technical)||Spring|
|7||Brandin||Hawthorne||LB||Pahokee, Fla. (Pahokee)||Spring. Norman Griffith, the Pahokee player who was killed last year, wore 7.|
|26||Isaiah||Bell||LB||Youngstown, Ohio (Liberty)|
|27||Mike||Jones||LB||Orlando, Fla. (Edgewater)||
|5||Vladimir||Emilien||S||Lauderhill, Fla. (Plantation)||Spring|
|15||Thomas||Gordon||S||Detroit, Mich. (Cass Technical)||Listed as a safety, has same number as RB Mike Cox (sic). For the moment, Gordon's a safety.|
|2||J.T.||Turner||CB||Massillon, Ohio (Washington)|
|13||Adrian||Witty||CB||Deerfield Beach, Fla. (Deerfield Beach)|
|34||Brendan||Gibbons||PK||West Plam Beach, Fla. (Cardinal Newman)|
|14||Nadar||Furrha||QB||Ann Arbor, Mich. (Pioneer)||Same # as Teric Jones, in same class, also on offense.|
|32||O'Neil||Swanson||RB||West Bloomfield, Mich. (Detroit Country Day)|
|42||Al||Backey||RB||Ypsilanti, Mich. (Ypsilanti)|
|36||Jonny||Childers||FB||Muskegon, Mich. (Mona Shores)||Requisite Rich-Rod fullback walk-on|
|27||Jordan||Owens||SR||Alpharetta, Ga. (Alpharetta)||Slot receiver from Georgia with an open number? Huh?|
|85||Joe||Reynolds||WR||Rochester, Mich. (Rochester Adams)|
|54||Jareth||Glanda||OL||Rochester Hills, Mich. (Brother Rice)|
|59||Tom||Lindley||OL||Shirley, N.Y. (William Floyd)|
|66||Christian||Brandt||OL||West Bloomfield, Mich. (Saint Mary's Prep)|
|67||Adam||Barker||OL||Adrian, Mich. (Adrian)|
|69||Erik||Gunderson||OL||Milan, Mich. (Milan)|
|94||Curt||Graman||LS||Cincinnati, Ohio (Elder)||Because Turner Booth doesn't last forever|
|67||Nathan||Brink||DE||Holland, Mich. (Holland Christian)|
|39||Eddie||Murray||PK||Royal Oak, Mich. (Royal Oak)|
|46||Seth||Broekhuizen||PK||Holland, Mich. (Holland)|
|93||Kris||Pauloski||PK||Indianapolis, Ind. (Pike)|
Also of Interest:
|19||Kelvin||Grady||SR||Grand Rapids, Mich. (East Grand Rapids)|
Things I'd like to say:
- I love that Hawthorne is gonna wear the number of his teammate (and fellow linebacker), Norman Griffith. He's taking on an awful load. I'm so rooting for this kid!
- Also, note what's happened with No. 7 through the years. Under Bo, it's Option QBs like Rick Leach and the first "Wolf" DE/LB hybrid, Mark Jacoby. Under Moeller it's hard-nosed runner Chris Floyd. Under Carr it's 5-star "stud" QBs Chad Henne and Drew Henson (or Spencer Brinton when you can't get one). And now: a tiny slot receiver (Robinson) and a linebacker from Pahokee, Florida, who wears the digit of his late friend. Could these be any more representative?
- Taylor Lewan: YMRMFSP...we get it.
- Denard Robinson in John Navarre's number: I like my irony served in 16's.
- Why is Craig Roh listed as an outside linebacker? Are they trying to give any fan who reads the DL depth chart a heart attack?
- If wearing No. 2 will make Turner into Woodson, does that mean Vlad Emilien and Thomas Gordon are gonna be Charles Stewart and DeWayne Patmon? NTTAWWT
Hello MGoBoarders -
I had a look at both the Spring and Fall rosters and focused in on the 7 early enrollees, to see what, if any, Barwis effect we can see on these kids.
Here are a few measurables of returning players on the fall roster, to use as comparison specimens:
Zoltan - 6'5", 231 lbs.
Omameh - 6 - 4, 276 lbs.
Warren - 6 - 0, 185 lbs.
Ezeh - 6 - 2, 243 lbs.
The early enrollees:
Tate Forcier - 6'1", 187 lbs then, 188 now.
Big Will - 6'5", 330 lbs then, 318 now.
Brandin Hawthorne - 6'0", 195 lbs then, 198 now.
Vladimir Emilien - 6'1", 213 lbs then, 198 now.
Mike Jones - 6'2", 202 lbs then, 203 now.
Vincent Smith - 5'6", 158 lbs then, 168 now.
And, the amazing body transformation winner:
Anthony LaLota - 6'4", 235 lbs then, 256 now.
Barwis has done wonders with BWC, Emilien, LaLota and Smith in 7 months. Perhaps LaLota will be able to contribute if needed? I hope he's not needed, but he's put on weight.
A few interesting notes -
Sheridan is 30 pounds heavier than Forcier.
Mike Martin is the same height as Brandon Graham, and 30 pounds heavier.
Brandon Herron is 6'2", 220 pounds, and Craig Roh is 6'4", 238 lbs. If Roh can put on 5-10 pounds of muscle, he will probably overtake Herron as the spinner at some point this year.
As an aside regarding Tate's "numbers," Colt McCoy entered school in 2005 at 6'1", 180 pounds. By 2006, when he started, he was listed at 6'3", 195 pounds. He is mostly listed on the Internets at 6'1". Tate is very close to Colt physically when Colt started for Texas as a RS frosh. I think the physical aspect of the game will be okay for Tate, it's the experience that needs to obviously be developed.
Also, as always, I needed to check on Mike Cox. 6'0", 208 pounds. Brandon is 6'1", 218 lbs. By next year, Cox should be able to take Minor's spot.
Kevin Grady is 60 pounds heavier than Kelvin Grady, at the same height.
Helmuth is down from 299 to 291.
All the O-linemen range in the 6'2" to 6'5" area, and in the 270-290 weight range. I think this is a little bit smaller weight-wise than, say, Wisconsin or Ohio State, but it seems exactly what Rich Rod's offense requires in O-linemen.
And finally, Quentin Washington is 4 inches shorter than Taylor Lewan, but 57 pounds heavier. The upcoming year of Barwis will certainly be interesting when comparing these guys next July.
Most logical OOC game:
There have been several lousy attempts at predicting who the 2010 OOC opponent will be. While Michigan may well come up with some mediocre SEC (read Arkansas) or Pac 10 (Cal) opponent, what makes the most logical OOC opponent? I submit that it is OSU; yes, that school down south. You CAN play a conference team as an OOC game; there is precedence for it. Even Cook's Big 10 round robin format from a while back suggested this. SO, why OSU and not MSU or other? Because we will be opening our new stadium (you know what i mean, new stands as opposed to an actual new stadium) in 2010; that's why. We MUST play the opening game against OSU. Also, this will mean we have played two straight games against them with a bowl game inbetween. This will add FIRREEE to the rivarly and make us win more games.
On to the predictions
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Notre Dame - Likely W
Eastern Michigan - Autowin
Indiana - Autowin
@ Michigan State - Autowin
@ Iowa - Loss
Delaware State - Autowin
Penn State - Likely W
@ Illinois - Loss
@ Purdue - Autowin
@ Wisconsin - Likely W
Ohio State - Functional DNP
So, we are going 10-2 at best, 7-5 at worst with a median of 8.5 wins. BET ON IT. No MNC this year.
Press release from what appears to be the world's most incompetent PR firm.
ANN ARBOR GOLF & OUTING REAFFIRMS
DECISION TO ENFORCE NEW PARKING REGULATIONS
The Ann Arbor Golf and Outing Board of Directors today reaffirmed its earlier decision to enforce new parking regulations beginning with the first Michigan game versus Western Michigan September 5.
"We appreciate the time and effort that a number of people have taken to ask for reconsideration due to their desire to remain in private parking areas where they can be with the longtime friends and colleagues," said Larry Eiler, chairman of AAGO parking.
"However, despite the requests, we have again gone over the safety and accountability issues that apply to all people who park at the club. And our decision is that all patrons are best served by parking in the spaces we direct them to in order for us to have them park properly, place canopies in the proper space behind any vehicle and occupy one space, not two or more spaces." These regulations will be enforced by the club's parking supervisors and the Washtenaw County Sheriffs who assist the club in enforcement of all parking rules.
"We are disappointed at the decision of patrons to disagree with the new regulations, which were made for safety concerns. However, we understand the decision to seek other parking sites where 10-20 members of a groups can park all in one spot, safely," said Eiler.
We recommend that patrons who desire to park together coordinate their entry to that they have their desired group all entering at once and not randomly as in the past. We also recommend that people enter in vehicles that contain their cooking and other utensils so they can still be together at one site.
One photo below shows how vehicles whose patrons use canopies must place those canopies - behind their vehicles. "The second photo demonstrates the safety problem we encounter virtually every game as vehicles use extra spaces to set up canopies, play games, place cooking utensils and tables/chairs," Eiler said.
Parking supervisors will direct people to the next available spot when they enter the course from either the main gate on Stadium Blvd. across from the UM Crisler Arena or on Saline Road across from the Scio Church Road entry to Saline Road.
Parking prices remain the same for the fifth year in a row, $40 per vehicle and no charge this year for canopies placed properly.
All vehicles parked on the Ann Arbor Golf & Outing Club course during Michigan football games must place canopies like the photo above - behind their parked vehicles. No canopies may be placed beside or in front of vehicles. There is no charge this year for use of canopies. Patrons who place canopies improperly risk being evicted from the course.
Reason for parking regulation changes. This example of vehicles parked with canopies improperly placed at the 2008 Michigan State game is the underlying reason for the AAGO parking change rules. The scene at the top of the grade along the second hole demonstrates how canopies, games, cooking utensils and seats use extra space by vehicles and impede ingress and egress along the fairway. Similar sites are noted on other holes across the course. Emergency vehicles cannot pass the clogged pathways intended for vehicles to reach parking sites. They are not intended for canopies, cooking utensils, games, tables and chairs.
Portion of Statement by Jeff Carter, president of Ann Arbor Golf & Outing Club, To club members
Dear Golf & Outing Member,
Our outside parking guests have traditionally been able to park in a spot of their choice. Beginning this season, they will be required to park according to order of entry and arrival time. There has been pressure from non-member groups to revise our new regulated parking routine, and the purpose of our letter is to clarify the reasons for the changes. We have reconsidered our decision announced in June and have again found that safety must be the primary criterion for allowing guests to park on our course.
Over the past several years, there has been tremendous growth in the use of canopies by our patrons. We have unsuccessfully tried to control the placement of these in order to maintain available parking places for other vehicles as well as maintaining entry lanes, and we are now at the point where the police have indicated that we must resolve the issue. Access to all areas of the course for emergency and security vehicles has at times been literally blocked by improperly placed vehicles and tent-type structures. The emergency professionals simply can't get there at certain times to assist when the ingress and egress routes are blocked by canopies and games.
There has been much criticism by outsiders that our changes are based upon "more money." The fact is that we have not increased our $40 fee for several years and have never charged for canopies. While these canopies and tents do take up some of our available spots, the purpose of this change is about safety and security for our patrons and members.
Ann Arbor Golf & Outing is a private club and policies cannot be dictated by outside opinion or misinformation. We do value the opinions expressed to us by longtime parkers and have taken several weeks to reevaluate our decision. Please consider when you have visited ANY parking venue where you have been allowed to park wherever and however you wished.
The changes are entirely about safety and security for both guests and members.
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Recently I posted a diary entry considering the 2008 Capital One Bowl game entitled, Worst Victory Ever—stupid idea, I know. But, I thought it might be a good idea therefore, to submit another diary entry, Best Loss Ever. I got many suggestions for this game. The 2005 Rose Bowl loss to Vince Young and Longhorns was a popular suggestion. The 1980 losses to <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />South Carolina (George Rogers) and Notre Dame were also considered. That BYU bowl game where they cheated and held on every play, is another. While these games definitely have their merits and are very good losses, they just did not scream Best Loss Ever. For me, at least, there can be only one:
The 1968 50-14 loss to Ohio State was my choice for Numero Uno.
That is all the video I could find….
Let’s consider that 1968 Michigan team for a moment. It was coached by former Michigan All American, Bump Elliot, who in 1964 won the Rose Bowl and was just generally a pretty good football coach—not to mention a Michigan Man—whatever that is. Bump was 8-1 (In 1967 they won only 4 games.) coming into the OSU game that year. His defense had given up only 105 points so far that season and had two shutouts on the books. He had guys like Jim Mandich, Phil Seymour, Stanley Broadnax, Dan Dierdorf, Dennis Brown, John Gabler, Garvie Craw, Jim Brandstatter, Dana Coin, Thom Darden, Glenn Doughty, Don Moorehead, Barry Pierson, Cecil Pryor, Marty Huff, Ron Johnson and Tom Curtis. They were ranked #4 in the country. Is that good enough?
On the other side were the State of Ohio University Buckeyes. While no one will ever know exactly what a Buckeye is, we know they had a good football team in 1968. Woody had become existential due to pressure from the boosters and fans and was willing to run a play besides the Robust 27 or 28. (See: 1968; The Year that Saved Ohio State Football, by David Hyde. ." It's essentially a re-creation of that season starting with the 1966 season, when Woody Hayes had a losing record, was burned in effigy, fans started chanting, "Good-Bye Woody" in Ohio Stadium.) Woody had brought in some crazy high school coach who believed OSU might be a bit predictable (i.e. George Chaump) and thought maybe the I formation might help. Woody also brought in Lou Holtz. I believe Earle Bruce was there, too. Bill Mallory was there, but you guys are probably too young to remember Old Bill.
This was also the team of the Super Sophs—for real. You are young and probably don’t remember Rex Kern (who had major back surgery in June that year), Jack Tatum (who ended up on defense due to a toss of the coin) Jim Stillwagon, Bruce Jankowiki, and Jim Otis. I just can’t bring myself to name any others. Anyway, Woody tried something very radical that year. Instead of just taking all the good players and putting them on the offense, he tossed a coin with his coaches and let them choose players, you know, like in pick-up football. I guess that junk worked because that team kicked butt for three years.
The Buckeyes were solid in 1968. They rolled up 440 yards and 32 points per game. Their stingy defense only allowed 15 points and 292 yards per game.
The largest crowd in Horeshoe history would be attending this game; 85, 371. Almost forgot, they were undefeated and hadn’t lost a game. No sugarcoat.
But what the heck. Bump had a good team, as well. Woody was starting 11 sophomores for Heaven’s sake! I am sure Bump was feeling all confident and stuff on his way into that game. Up until halftime it was a fairly even contest. Then, along came this Jim Otis guy and suddenly Michigan looks like a high school team. We all know the story about Woody going for 2. We also know the story of Woody socking that Clemson player in the grill. Let’s leave it at that.
I wonder if Bump went home that day and said to his wife, “They are going to fire me over that one! We gave up 420 yards on the ground! ON THE GROUND!” Well, they didn’t. Bump was promoted to Assistant Athletic Director, a very important job with huge responsibilities I am certain, like posing for photos with the new coach.
So, here is my argument for this being the Best Loss Ever: It brought us Bo. If Michigan had actually won that game, or even kept the score close we might have had to muddle through ten more years of Bump—and maybe that would not have been all bad. No, on second thought, that would have been a disaster and would not have given us the Ten Year War and all that other junk we Michigan fans so adore. In fact, I might argue that loss did more for Michigan Football than anything that happened ever. I’d be wrong, of course, but you get my point.
OT: Think about it. When has total humiliation impacted your life in such a positive way? Discuss. SpartanDan—you go first since we are all sure you have much experience with this sort of thing.
I just spoke with his coach, Jay Minton, and it looks like Terry will be visiting Michigan on Wednesday, the 29th. It sounded like this wasn't set in stone yet, but is looking like a strong possibility. Talbott is 6'4 270 pounds, and plays both defensive tackle and offensive tackle. He's also ranked by Rivals as a......3 star!!!!! If Michigan could add a defensive tackle to this years class, it would definitely be a bonus.
As you can see the Michigan coaches have been really focusing on the defensive side of the ball, with regards to recruiting. It looks like we're all done for offense, unless any oth bigger names want to come aboard. With Talbott visiting this Wednesday, Brandon Ifill coming in this weekend, Latwan Anderson now looking to make another trip up, and Josh Furman planning on taking an official visit. These are just some of the more recent happenings with defensive players.
I'll keep you updated on Talbott's potential visit, and I should have more from him soon.
EDIT: Here's a quote from his coach on his strengths and weaknesses.
"As for Terry, his strength is his ability to use his explosiveness to get off the ball and change direction. He is very strong upper body and his core is strong. He, like a lot of High School players need to better define his technique. He has good technique now, but to play at the next level and be successful his technique must be great. He uses his hands well now, but needs to always work on using them better." - Jay Minton