This is my first diary, so here goes nothing.
As you all know, the new divisional alignment in the Big Ten will depend mainly on the following two factors: geography, and competitive balance. This diary will attempt to evaluate each of the proposed divisional alignments on the BTN survey based on geography.
I have created a spreadsheet that contains the travel distances from each school in the Big Ten to every other school in an effort to see which divisional alignment is best in terms of travel distance. I used Google Maps directions to obtain the distances. I know that teams fly if the distance is over a certain amount, and therefore these distances may not be useful in some instances, but this can give you an idea of the travel costs for each team.
Here are the straight up distances, along with average distance to other schools for each team:
Here is a list and description of things I will be looking at:
Avg Division Travel (ADT) - Average distance from a school to each of the other schools in the same division
Avg Crossover Travel (ACT) - Average distance from a school to each of the schools in the opposite division
Composite Avg - [(2/3*ADT)+(1/3*ACT)] The thought here is that in a 9 game conference schedule, 2/3 of the games will consist of divisional games, and 1/3 will consist of crossover games. This value attempts to compute the average travel distance for each away game in the conference.
Average Outer - This is a critical stat for comparing the amount of travel in each divisional layout. This value is the average traveling distance to an away game for one of the schools that would be in the Inner-Outer divisional layout. These schools will typically have the longest travel since they are located on the outskirts of the Big Ten footprint. Making travel a little easier for these schools should be an objective.
Average All - This is the average of the Composite Average for each school in the Big Ten
Now, let's look at the divisions:
|Avg Division Travel||375||365||436||448||446||588||658||396||352||498||340||507||840||668|
|Avg Crossover Travel||398||460||493||363||379||697||777||349||476||635||405||382||518||820|
|Avg Division Travel||295||465||263||350||389||410||480||267||320||357||331||265||425||498|
|Avg Crossover Travel||467||375||641||447||428||850||929||460||503||756||413||589||873||966|
|Avg Division Travel||230||233||574||247||245||713||844||236||263||531||194||569||746||804|
|Avg Crossover Travel||522||573||374||535||552||590||659||487||507||497||530||329||598||703|
So, what did we find? You can tell right away that the Existing +1 divsion setup is the worst in terms of geography. The average away game will be 500 miles on the dot from the traveling team's campus. The Outer teams will have to travel an average of 600 miles to opposing teams' campuses.
The East-West setup improves things a bit, which is an intuitive result. The average away game is 451 miles for each Big Ten team.
The Inner Outer setup is less improved, but somewhat surprising is the fact that it is a little better than the current setup. This is because while the Outer Division will have to travel very far for half of its division games, the crossover games won't be very far in most cases. The Inner Division will rarely have to travel very far.The average away game is 484 miles from campus.
Overall, I think the Inner-Outer setup provides the best competitive balance, and it improves upon the current divisional setup in terms of geography. Inner-Outer gets my vote, and it already seems to be the most popular amongst mgobloggers.
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The game is what it is. We can't change the results-- but I was really thinkin' we'd pull that one out. Hats off to the seniors for fighting so hard and giving so much... your stories deserve a better ending. It's also worth noting how the Michigan fan base is so willing to appreciate talent and OMG HE JUST TOOK VINCE'S HEAD OFF aspect of the game, even when it's the opposition.
Tomorrow I will unveil what is likely the final drawing I'll ever do of a young man from Deerfield Beach. If I do say so, it's a special one-- don't miss it.
Some new formatting news for the New Year:
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Some time back, I created a small diary (click here to see it) which broke down the wins and losses of UM coaches in the modern era. The gist of it was simple: group wins and losses based on the size of the margin of victory or loss, and see what happens.
A few things stood out from that earlier post:
- Bo's first six years were ridiculous. His teams almost never lost! We'll likely never see a run like that again.
- Carr and Mo were quite comparable to the rest of Bo's career (excluding those six magical seasons).
- Carr's (very) slight atrophying was showing up in a few more close wins than what had been the norm.
Although I wanted to wait a few more years to do this, well, boredom set in, and thus again you get the Graph(TM), with Hoke's first two years included:
The graph breaks down each year into seven different groups: big wins (by 15 or more), medium wins (by 8-14), close wins (by 7 or less), ties (from when these used to occur), and close, medium, and big losses (the same margins apply).
There is also a summary graph for each coach (again breaking Bo into two groups, the first six years and the rest):
Cutting to the chase, we can observe the following:
- Hoke has restored one big part of the Michigan Expectation: a large number of relatively easy wins (dark blue part of the bar). Indeed, he already has 13 of these comfortable victories in just two years; RichRod had only 6 in three years.
- Hoke's current win percentage is in the expected ballpark (around .730, just short of the .750 we saw for Bo after '74, Mo, and Carr).
- Hoke isn't getting blown out a lot (also unlike the RichRod era, alas); an actual defense helps with this.
- Hoke's "close win" percentage is more like Carr's; a sign of the times, or a hint at future troubles?
Of course, all of this is quite premature, and the next few years will help us better understand how the Hoke era will likely proceed. And while 8-5 is OK in a given year, it is clearly not OK in the long run (at least, given the expectations we all have from decades of winning). Thus, as Hoke builds the team into his vision of Michigan Football, will he achieve at the level of Coach Carr (five seasons with at least ten wins, including one Mythic National Championship)? Will he continue to win the games we "should" win by large amounts? Will he secure his fair share of Big Ten Championships? Or (dare I hope) will he put together a run unseen since the legendary early days of Bo? Only time will tell.
My own feelings: having a real defense makes it all possible; stout defense makes most tough games close, and easier games into blowouts. If the offense starts to click, and "Good Borges" becomes the only Borges we see (particularly as the "right" parts are brought in via recruiting), it seems like Hoke is on his way to a successful career at UM.
What are your thoughts?
I will start my final diary of this season by thanking Dave Brandon for another "Wow" moment. He really went retro with the throwback uniforms, to a time before jerseys had numbers. Wait, there were numbers on those uniforms? One of the first things you learn when you start preparing powerpoint charts is don't use a yellow font color on a white background. (Another thing is make your fonts large enough for your audience to see them - and yes, this is a reference to the mini-numbers on the front of the UTL jerseys.)I would have thought that a marketing genius would know that. Maybe if they had made the blue border a little wider, the number would have stood out, or at least been visible. I think the problem was getting into business with Adidas in the first place. My wife bought me a couple pair of sweatpants for Christmas, because it gets cold at the Badminton Club in January. They were made by Adidas and the tags called them, "Weekender Pants." I tried on a pair and had a strange urge to move to Florida and start playing shuffleboard. In keeping with the SitCom theme of the season, I'll share a quote from Seinfeld regarding sweatpants, "You know the message you're sending out to the world with these sweatpants? You're telling the world, 'I give up. I can't compete in normal society. I'm miserable, so I might as well be comfortable.'" That sums up Adidas and our "wow" jerseys.
Burst of Impetus
* I didn't take notes during the game, so I was sitting here trying to remember what big plays Michigan made to grab the momentum. Then it hit me, we didn't make any. All the big plays were made by South Carolina. Ojemudia did force a fumble, but that was about it. Wile's 52 yard field goal was a nice shot in the arm and set us up for a dramatic fourth quarter. Our longest run was 19 yards and our longest reception was 26 yards. Meanwhile, both USC QBs had passes greater than 50 yards and one had a 64 yard run.
* Subtract the three long plays and our defense held SC to 236 yards on 50 plays. (Subtract the punt return and our Special Teams were pretty good as well.)
* Quoting me after game 1, "We held Bama to only 431 yards. They may be the best offense we face all year. If we can hold everyone else under 431, I’ll be happy." USC gained 426 yards. Am I happy? No, because we lost the game.
* We had been playing with fire all season against shaky B1G QBs. We saw what competent QBs can do against 2nd string CBs, and even then, we almost pulled it out. One more bobble on the Sanders TD and that comes back and then who knows?
* So the question is, why did we give up the big plays when we had been so good at avoiding those all season? Was it really the poor B1G QBs? Or was it the loss of JT Floyd?
* Gordon led us in tackles with 6. Ryan was next with 4. The defense was not on the field very much and the stats reflect that.
* We did manage 7 TFLs on USC's 53 plays. I'll take more of that next season.
* Demens only had 1 tackle. Campbell had 0 (did he play?) and Floyd didn't play. That's three of our five defensive leaders contributing one tackle total.
* Denard carried 23 times for 100 yards. He threw once incomplete. It was nice of USC to respect his passing ability (except for the 2nd failed 2pt conversion attempt.) Did they even bother to scout us? He also caught one pass for 7 yards.
* I don't really read Bill Simmons or Grantland anymore. But one of his "things" is the Ewing Theory. In brief, it states that teams can surprise you by winning AFTER the major star leaves the team. Think of Tennessee winning the National Championship with Tee Martin after Manning graduated. Secretly, in a tiny portion of my brain, way back where my repressed memories lie, I'm hoping that Denard is the next Ewing Theory example and Gardner leads us to the promised land next season.
* Let's hope Gardner develops some chemistry with another receiver besides Gallon. Might I suggest Funchess? Half of Gardner's 18 completions went to Gallon.
Bunches of Funchess
* Gallon had 9 receptions for 145 yards and 2 TDs. He would have been the player of the game had Michigan made a stop on USC's final drive.
And Justice for Rawls
* I noticed one of SC's O-linemen had a tattoo that read, "Justice IV All." Justice Hayes ran twice for 3 yards. Rawls didn't carry the ball.
Norf and Souf
* Norfleet returned one kick for 32 yards and made a tackle. I like his enthusiasm, but I'm worried one of these days he's going to get hit with an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. One of the bigger questions of this off-season is going to be what they do with him, position-wise. Vincent Smith needs to be replaced.
* OK, I do have a section devoted to the referees, so I guess I have to comment on our 9.99 yard first down. There are only three possible explanations. One, the chain is 10 yards, so the ball only needs to get to the end of the chain, not the linky thing on the yard-marker. Two, the official thought the yard marker was leaning out of the way and if it had been upright, it would have touched the ball. (I'm really straining as a Michigan homer to justify that call.) Three, it was a glitch in the Matrix. Did you all check the back of your necks for the data ports like I did after that play? Slight tangent, if the Matrix had been made today, I think they would be able to replace all those huge connectors with one fiber optic cable up your nose, or possibly a wireless link. Man, how technology has evolved over the years.
* I really couldn't understand the refs, and then it hit me, half of the group had bet on Michigan to cover the spread, and half had bet on USC to win outright, so they compromised and worked it out so that SC could win by 5. What else could explain the head referee COVERING HIS MOUTH while he discussed a play with the other refs. I felt like I was watching the WWE. What are you hiding?
* We had 24 first downs to their 17, and 38 minutes TOP to their 22. This was like the Indiana game a few years ago, except we were Indiana. We were grinding it out, 10 yards at a time. The problem with that is you need to be perfect. Any little holding penalty or hands-to-the-face penalty stops your drive.
* Time of possession was 10+ minutes for Michigan in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd quarters, but only 6:31 in the 4th quarter. Instead of tiring out their defense, I guess our offense got tired.
* Net yards rushing, M: 141, SC: 85. That usually correlates with a victory, but being -1 in TO margin and giving up the punt return TD negates that advantage.
* Clowney had 4 tackles, two TFLs, and the hit that SportsCenter is showing on a continuous loop. It must suck being an O-linemen. You stop a guy for 81 plays, have a miscommunication on the 82nd, and the D-linemen ends up on all the highlight shows and gets picked first overall in the draft next year. I'm sure Lewan and Clowney will meet again at the next level. Those are two outstanding football players. I wanted Muppets, but all I got was Bozo the Clowney.
Thanks to everybody who clicked on my Diary this season, even if it was just to get a handy link to the boxscore. Happy New Year, MGoFriends.
“A HIGH-LEVEL LOOK AT OVERALL PRODUCTION”
After an afternoon of disappointment followed by reflection, I decided to take a look at the last ten years of Michigan football and conduct a little “then and now” look at it. I had most of this data already, so it was reasonably convenient for me.
I added the South Carolina data into the figuring of seasonal averages for rushing offense and defense, passing offense and defense and scoring offense and defense. I then split the ten seasons into “the previous eight” versus “the last two” and provided separate averages for these. Granted, an average of two numbers isn’t exceedingly meaningful, but it aids in approximating a few other items. More specifically, increases or decreases in productivity between the two periods. Recognizing the dangers of the “average of averages”, given that there are so many data points involved, I will accept the summary statistics as a decent approximation and a good basis for discussion.
So you can see the trends between the first two seasons with this coaching staff, I figured out the percent change along the six metric between the two years, but then I also did this for the “Hoke Era”, if you will, versus the previous eight years so it is possible to see, at a high level, some of the effects of the change.
DATA AND RESULTS:
Mich Rushing Off. - Avg. Yds
Mich Passing Off. - Avg. Yds
Mich Rushing Def. - Avg. Yds
Mich Passing Def. - Avg. Yds
Mich Scoring Off. - Avg. Pts.
Mich Scoring Def. - Avg. Pts.
10 Year Average:
Avg. (Previous 8 Seasons):
Avg. (Last 2 Seasons):
% Change (Prev. 8 Seasons to Last 2 Seasons):
% Change (2011-12 to 2012-13):
There shouldn’t be too much in here that you didn’t already surmise.
For one thing, in some of the numbers anyway, you will clearly note what has been called “The Denard Effect” around these parts when it comes to offensive production, particularly rushing and scoring offense. Between this season and last, the 17.9% decrease in average rushing can be explained by injuries and by role and scheme changes in the offense. It will be interesting to revisit this analysis next year for this reason. The other thing that will not shock anyone is the drop in passing overall during the current regime, but the uptick from last year to this year, mainly due to “the Gardner effect”, if you will.
An interesting statistic to me as well is that, despite appearances, the pass defense did get better this year compared to last despite what I would term the absence of pure pass rusher, at least in my opinion. The rush defense actually took a step back statistically, although you watching the games makes that difficult to believe for me sometimes.
There are plenty of springboards for discussion in this, I believe, but I am interested in what the MGoCommunity thinks.
ADDENDUM (at the request of Blue In Seattle - excellent idea, BTW):
|2003||10||3||Terry Malone||Jim Herrmann|
|2004||9||3||Terry Malone||Jim Herrmann|
|2005||7||5||Terry Malone||Jim Herrmann|
|2006||11||2||Mike DeBord||Ron English|
|2007||9||4||Mike DeBord||Ron English|
|2008||3||9||Calvin Magee||Scot Shafer|
|2009||5||7||Calvin Magee||Greg Robinson|
|2010||7||6||Calvin Magee||Greg Robinson|
|2011||11||2||Al Borges||Greg Mattison|
|2012||8||5||Al Borges||Greg Mattison|
FOR THOSE OF US SUFFERING THROUGH WINTER:
It turns out Michigan led the nation in adjusted open field rushing yards (AOFY) in 2012. What I mean by that is whenever a team got their RB 10 yards past the line of scrimmage on any given play – Michigan on average had more added yards than any other team in the nation. Unfortunately Michigan wasn’t very good at getting ball carriers 10 yards past the LOS. Here’s the run down for the entire FBS up until the bowls.
Adjusted Open Field Yards - FBS 2012
|Team||Conf||AOFY||AOFY||AOFY Rate||AOFY Rate|
|San Diego State||MWC||12.51||9||12.63%||9|
|Michigan State||Big Ten||11.06||25||8.10%||117|
|North Texas||Sun Belt||11.00||26||9.86%||109|
|Middle Tennessee||Sun Belt||10.44||34||12.01%||101|
|San Jose State||WAC||10.39||35||7.80%||120|
|Florida International||Sun Belt||10.27||37||10.84%||91|
|Western Kentucky||Sun Belt||9.90||50||14.04%||83|
|West Virginia||Big 12||9.65||53||16.80%||10|
|Oklahoma State||Big 12||9.41||57||13.82%||18|
|Arkansas State||Sun Belt||9.22||62||13.36%||8|
|Ohio State||Big Ten||9.09||66||17.55%||7|
|South Alabama||Sun Belt||8.77||76||8.41%||90|
|South Florida||Big East||8.33||82||12.73%||57|
|Florida Atlantic||Sun Belt||8.10||89||8.75%||113|
|Texas Tech||Big 12||7.81||96||15.38%||17|
|New Mexico State||WAC||7.41||103||9.32%||95|
|Penn State||Big Ten||7.09||105||7.05%||108|
|Iowa State||Big 12||6.68||110||13.12%||89|
|Kansas State||Big 12||6.53||114||14.12%||43|
|North Carolina State||ACC||5.56||121||7.42%||116|
These are conditionally formatted – Blue to Red with the hue indicating the spread of these numbers. Michigan is the clear leader in this contrived stat.
To see Michigan leading the nation in any offensive stat was a surprise to me – and I thought I’d share it. It’s not an official stat by any means but it’s one that I came upon while looking to quantify Offensive Line (OL) performance. What I wanted to see was an offensive line performance stat/summary for 2012 based on the metrics Football Outsiders (FO) uses for the NFL.
What I’m finding is not what I wanted with respect to OL work but I’ll share some of that since it explains the table above.
Scheme is by far the more telling factor in rushing success in the FBS than NFL caliber OL talent or all-American status. Triple option teams do extremely well but without the boss hogs or broad reach blocking lineman of the primo run spread teams that I expected to dominate these stats. I don’t want to take anything away from any of these teams however. What they have done in rushing stats – doesn’t happen if the OL is not playing like a team.
Here’s the standard rushing yards per game with some minor tweaks. There are interesting differences between this and the OL stats I pulled and present later on…
Standard Rush Stats 2012
(minus sacks and FCS games)
|Team||Conf||% Rush Plays||% Pass Plays||Rush /G||Rush Yds/G||Rush Yds /G||Rush||Rush|
|Ohio State||Big Ten||63.32%||36.68%||257.67||42||10||5.83||8.54|
|San Diego State||MWC||61.53%||38.47%||239.73||59||14||5.65||9.15|
|Arkansas State||Sun Belt||53.45%||46.55%||211.27||20||30||5.35||7.59|
|Oklahoma State||Big 12||49.59%||50.41%||204.27||5||33||5.26||7.86|
|West Virginia||Big 12||44.64%||55.36%||195.73||8||41||5.56||8.97|
|Western Kentucky||Sun Belt||57.36%||42.64%||195.00||84||43||5.19||7.59|
|Kansas State||Big 12||62.27%||37.73%||194.45||62||45||4.87||6.22|
|Middle Tennessee||Sun Belt||58.20%||41.80%||189.91||68||48||4.82||8.28|
|South Florida||Big East||48.77%||51.23%||167.55||91||62||4.89||7.22|
|Florida International||Sun Belt||52.68%||47.32%||163.17||71||68||4.33||7.65|
|Michigan State||Big Ten||48.59%||51.41%||162.75||90||70||4.52||6.23|
|Penn State||Big Ten||48.76%||51.24%||159.33||46||74||4.21||4.85|
|North Texas||Sun Belt||53.89%||46.11%||159.27||87||75||4.21||8.14|
|Iowa State||Big 12||48.17%||51.83%||153.64||97||82||4.44||6.31|
|Texas Tech||Big 12||37.64%||62.36%||147.73||10||91||5.21||7.51|
|South Alabama||Sun Belt||48.09%||51.91%||143.50||104||96||4.14||6.29|
|San Jose State||WAC||46.38%||53.62%||132.00||27||106||4.04||6.77|
|North Carolina State||ACC||40.99%||59.01%||121.36||48||114||3.67||4.96|
|New Mexico State||WAC||42.66%||57.34%||120.45||107||115||4.26||5.83|
|Florida Atlantic||Sun Belt||45.01%||54.99%||118.18||100||116||3.79||6.13|
I formatted standard deviation in green – because I’m not sure what’s good in that regard. I would say looking at the data however that a reasonably high spread in general is a sign of success. Std Dev is a tell for scheme and some of the OL stats I was breaking out when I came to Open Field Yards.
FO has done some good stuff with respect to offensive line performance. They contrived a few ways to tweeze out relative OL performance. Curiously I couldn’t find these methods applied to college ball. I gave it a quick whack in the first diary and came up with a gross reality check that pretty much matched my gut – OL performance was not good in that game and adjusted line yards were significantly lower.
Check the FO link and previous diary to define Adjusted Line Yards but here is a quick chart and definition of their derived stats for Adjusted Line Yards (ALY), Second Level Yards (SLY) and Open Field Yards (OFY) as compiled by FO.
What’s going on here is they are taking yards per play and giving them value based on the outcome. The concept is simple – the initial yards are more relevant to OL performance. The second level yards less so. The open field yards…not so much.
Adjusted Line Yards (<=10 yards)– are conceptually on the offensive line – no block no gain
Losses: 120% value – because if you don’t block at all that’s a TFL
0-4 Yards: 100% value
5-10 Yards: 50% value
11+ Yards: 0% value e.g. 10 yard gain is worth 7 yards… 20 yard gain is worth 7 yards…
Second Level Yards (6-10 yard gains) – are a combined ball carrier and OL stat
Losses – 5 yards: 0% value
6-10 Yards: 100% value e.g. 6 yard gain is worth 1 SLY…
11+ Yards: 0% value e.g. 10 yard gain is worth 5 SLYs… 20 yard gain is worth 5 SLYs…
Open Field Yards (11+) = are conceptually on the ball carrier
Losses – 10yards: 0% value
11+ Yards: 0% value e.g. 11 yard gain is worth 1 OFY … 20 yard gain is worth 10 OFYs…
- Caveat 1 - I took out Sacks.
- Caveat 2 – I took out games involving FCS teams. Which is a gift to Mich since we played UMass.
Caveat 3 – I include QB rushing here. I did this because it’s college and … well… duh… Denard. Scrambles don’t make much difference in the overall here and the NCAA counts them as rushes so … be it.
I looked at this data and tried to make sense of it. It didn’t look good for Michigan. So I did what any good MGoBlog diarist does and adjusted it to suit my thesis.
It still doesn’t look good for Michigan but this is what I did.
Adjusted Adjusted Line Yards AALY
- I normalized the losses over 10 yards to –10 yards. I did a sampling and these were snap issues (still an OL issue but not what I’m concerned about) – reverse plays gone wrong or mis-tagged sacks*. (*There’s plenty of errors in the cfbstats.com data BTW – but I don’t think they are significant. Most of them appear to be due to NCAA/Scoring issues anyway.)
Adjusted Second Level Yards ASLY
- I took out the plays that went for zero yards – in general you can’t hold it against the ball carriers if they didn’t get to the second level.
Adjusted Open Field Yards AOFY
- Same as above – I took out plays that went for less than 11 yards to isolate these from the mean OFY totals.
- With these adjustments in mind I added two columns for SLY rate and OFY rate to represent the % of plays that a team sprang ball carriers for these distances.
Here’s a revised chart with these adjustments…the distributions are better and the model is better for what these derivative stats are intended to represent.
I added an ASLY % rate to the summary table to show how often teams got their rusher to the second level as well as an AOFY % rate. These are important and significant changes over the FO yards stat. Their NFL rates of 2nd level and Open Field plays are rolled into their summary yards.
Since I had the data summarized I added the FO convention for Success Rate % for all rushing plays defined as follows:
- 1st downs that achieve 50% of yardage needed to convert or score
- 2nd downs that achieve 70% of yardage needed to convert or score
- 3rd/4th downs that convert or score
- Stuffed rate is defined as Percentage of runs where the running back is tackled at or behind the line of scrimmage. This includes QB runs minus sacks (this appears to be a press box discretion as there are negative QB runs that are not accounted as Sacks – I should look at this more closely but I don’t think it’s significant here.)
Finally I tallied Power Success straight up to the FO definition as percentage of runs on third or fourth down, two yards or less to go, that achieved a first down or touchdown. This also includes runs on first-and-goal or second-and-goal from the two-yard line or closer.
At this point I’m stultified by the challenge that OL statistical summarization presents wrt CFB (or any kind of football for that matter.) If I had time I’d follow the FO path and normalize this data to FBS averages… look at the individual ball carriers…take out garbage time… but I also kind of want to watch some bowl games and MSS wants me to take down the tree... and little TSS wants to ski. Let’s just say this is a work in progress.
Regardless of my problems… here’s the table that I was able to get up today…I added in Sack Rate (which I’m very skeptical of in terms of an OL criteria as I have seen previously when comparing the different SRs for Denard, Bellomy and Devin.) I went to three letter acronyms for the conferences. It is what it is.
OL Stats 2012 – FBS
|Team||Conf||AALY||ASLY||AOFY||Stuff Rate||ASLY Rate||AOFY Rate||Power Success Rate||Success Rate||Sack Rate|