well that's just, like, your opinion, man
Since Desmond became a Michigan Football Legend at last year's UTL, I have been thinking about how future players would be deemed worthy of Legend status. I turned to the College Football Hall of Fame for insight on their criteria for election into the Hall. My thought was that this would give us a good size group to choose from given that we already have 30 players elected. This is the first criteria:
All of the current Legends qualify under this criteria except for Ford (I think we can give Presidents a pass on this one).
Here is the list of First Team All-Americans:
|1||Paul Goebel, Anthony Carter, Derrick Alexander, David Terrell, Braylon Edwards|
|2||Jack Blott, Charles Woodson|
|3||Tripp Welborne, Marlin Jackson|
|4||Jim Harbaugh, Marquise Walker|
|6||Harry Kipke, Dave Brown|
|11||Francis Wistert, Albert Wistert, Alvin Wistert|
|17||Ted Petoskey, Larry Foote|
|19||Robert Brown, Remy Hamilton|
|24||Jack Clancy, Butch Woolfolk|
|25||Tom Edwards, Tom Curtis, Ernest Shazor|
|27||Benny Friedman, Charles Bernard|
|30||Harry Hawkins, Brad Cochran|
|35||Thom Darden, Don Dufek|
|37||Jim Smith, Erick Anderson, Jarrett Irons|
|40||Ron Johnson, Ron Simpkins|
|41||Randy Logan, Rob Lytle|
|45||William Daley, Pete Elliott|
|49||Robert Chappuis, Richard Volk|
|50||Otto Pommerening, David Molk|
|60||Mark Donahue, Mark Messner|
|65||Reggie McKenzie, Kurt Becker|
|67||Mervin Pregulman, John Vitale|
|69||Tom Dixon, Matt Elliott, Jon Runyan|
|72||Allen Wahl, Dan Dierdorf, Walt Downing, Ed Muransky, John Elliott|
|75||William Yearby, William Paris, Greg Skrepenak, David Baas|
|76||Stefan Humphries, Steve Hutchinson|
|77||Arthur Walker, Paul Seymour, Jon Jansen, Jake Long, Taylor Lewan|
|86||Robert Westfall, John Anderson|
|87||Edward Frutig, Ronald Kramer|
|88||Elmer Madar, Jim Mandich|
|96||Calvin O'Neal, William Carr|
Obviously this list is plenty long enough for multiple lifetimes of Michigan Football Legends Ceremonies, but using this criteria, can you really keep Michigan's All-Time leading rusher (Mike Hart) from getting a patch? I guess the real question is how do we separate a great player from a Michigan Legend?
At least the next two (after Harmon) are pretty easy in my opinion. Anthony Carter (three time first team All America) and Charles Woodson (Heisman). The hard part will be trying to find someone to wear those numbers, given what Hoke has already said about them being special. It should be fun.
I dug into the Rivals 100 for the years 2010 - 2013 today, originally to try and see if there were any State by state or Regional trends by position. I was inspired to check some data on the well worn "elite"-skill-player-recruiting-meme that popped up again in the Treadwell thread. While it may not be breaking news to everyone else, I thought I'd dump some data here in case others want to check it out.
Rivals 100 by Position:
|DUAL (Threat QB)||5||2||2||2.25|
Rivals 5 Stars by Position:
|Count of Location||Column Labels|
|Row Labels||2010||2011||2012||2013||Grand Total|
|# OF RECRUITS (ACTUAL)|
|TX, MO, KS||55||25||4||4||11||9||-|
|# OF RECRUITS (ACTUAL minus PROJECTED BY % of Total)|
|TX, MO, KS||-||6||(4)||(2)||(1)||2||(2)|
Footnotes: "Skill" - RB, APB, WR, TE, ATH. APB - All Purpose Back
While we all know the Southeast has a major advantage in recruiting ratings (some say this reflects not just talent but also bias), what surprised me was the positional breakdowns. Perhaps some of this is small sample size, but some bullets:
- The Southeast has a significantly higher % of the DBs than any other position. Given they have 153 out of 400 total recruits, you would expect them to have about 23 DBs of the 59. They actually had 33, 10 more than that! This is felt in the Midwest and Texas, where elite DBs are more scarce.
- A tiny sample, but the West Coast has been more successful at getting QBs elite status on Rivals.
- The Midwest is significantly overrepresented in Offensive Lineman recruits, with LBs also making a strong showing.
- The Coastal Region (MD, VA, NC) also has strong LBs.
- Texas jumps out for its offensive Skill players
- There's no discernable deviation from trend on DLinemen, the SEC meme is probably more depth related due to different roster management techniques
- One minor thing I thought was weird was the state of Georgia (not charted) produced 11 DL but only 1 OL in the last 4 years. However once the data is summed up to the regional level, the trend disappears.
- Neither Nebraska nor Oklahoma (the states) have a single recruit over the last four years that is in the Rivals Top 100. Not to say they can't have #101 every year, but the CFB playoff analogy is if you're not in the top 8, you probably can't claim to be number 1.
And now for some top recruiters by position group:
Rivals 100 RB/APB Commits (2010-2013 Total)
Remember these are not all 4 star, only rivals top 100
|Top Programs||4 Star||5 Star||Total|
(Michigan has one 4 Star, Justice Hayes)
Rivals 100 WR Commits, does not include listed as ATH (2010-2013 Total)
|Top Programs||4 Star||5 Star||Total|
(Michigan has zero)
Rivals 100 OL Commits (2010-2013 Total)
|Top Programs||4 Star||5 Star||Total|
(FWIW Alabama is way down the list with one 4 star and one 5 star.)
in this post, THE KNOWLEDGE shall reveal the result of the bowl game with the USC gamecocks
many is the number of folks who expect Michigan to lose, especially with JTF dismissed
these people don't know the most important fact about the game - the fact that THE KNOWLEDGE shall be in attendance
as THE KNOWLEDGE has pointed out many months ago on these very pages, Michigan has a perfect record in the presence of THE KNOWLEDGE
the current record stands at 19-0
for people that understand THE KNOWLEDGE, this is hardly a surprise. they know that THE KNOWLEDGE will not go to a game that Michigan is slated to lose
thus, the mere fact that THE KNOWLEDGE will attend the bowl game means that Michigan will emerge victorious
the greatest game report ever written (on this blog or elsewhere) was 5 years ago when THE KNOWLEDGE attended his last bowl game
that report was titled: "Capital One Bowl Report: How THE KNOWLEDGE soared over a sea of surrounding gators"
THE KNOWLEDGE shall provide a game report for the upcoming game as well. the title of this report shall be: "Outback Bowl Report: How THE KNOWLEDGE soared over a field of crawling cocks"
while most NFL scouts are eagerly anticipating the Lewan Vs Clowney matchup, spurrier will put clowney on the other side of the line inasmuch as he knows Lewan will own clowney
this will end up being a benefit for both sides
another mistake that people make is assuming that this game will be a defensive struggle
it will not be
THE KNOWLEDGE hereby introduces a one-time bowl game edition of THE CHALLENGE
predict the score of the game to be awarded the title: co-soarer of THE KNOWLEDGE
THE KNOWLEDGE has already provided the pointers for the game to make the prediction easier
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That Pam... what a card.
Tomorrow will see my official (aka final) "Christmas" strip, and then the Blockhams will go on hiatus until after the Outback Bowl. Thanks for a crazy year, my friends.
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“MUSINGS ON THE COMMUNITY OF MGoBlog"
Several threads and occurrences in the last several months here started to get me thinking about just how advanced a cyber-community MGoBlog actually is ,and this seemed even semi-appropriate with the holidays now upon us to reflect a little bit on what we collectively bring to this place.
Some may disagree, but to me, this place has both preserved its initial intent as being a premiere source for information and discussion of Michigan athletics, but it seems as if it has evolved into something far more than that. It is a combination of various items, I believe, ranging from the general parameters of the site to things as simple (or complex, depending on your view) as the sort of people we generally are as fans of the University of Michigan.
It is a virtual space, but a well-developed one. Our usernames are associated with particular styles of commentary, certain opinions and even specialty content. Whether it is karma or the soon-to-be returned voting system, our perceived credibility is judged on a daily basis. Indeed, being one of the most visible Michigan fan sites if not the most visible, the system of feedback is vital to maintaining the quality of the site and its content by showing newcomers to the community what the shared expectations tend to be.
Sometimes, we miss the mark, sometimes we hit upon something humorous or insightful, but in watching comments attain ratings, you gain visibility into community norms, some of which Brian laid out in the beginning, but many of which have developed above and beyond the basic tenets of the site. Some of them are humorous, but some are not - Muppets, for example, after a big victory are humorous and deserved, but someone posting a link to one of Bleacher Report’s slide shows is not.
It is a moderated space, so in a sense, it is a governed one, both through site moderation and the community at large. As if you were speaking at work, you don’t necessarily have the right to say whatever without consequence, and this alone strengthens the sense of community around here. We do an excellent job of looking out for one another, but this is a group also unafraid to let people know in some fashion when lines (both external and internal to the blog) have been crossed, either deliberately or by definition as in the odd Kate Upton GIF. To safeguard against this, we can see posts and threads labeled as “NSFW”, for example, or indeed, when things get ugly, threads or posts are locked and/or deleted. People may quibble about the amount of moderation, but it is undeniable that without it, this would not be a close-knit group.
We’ve donated to and even taken on the causes of other site members, some of which include former players at Michigan, which I think is one of the most apparent pieces of evidence that ours is a fairly advanced community as cyber-cultures go. We’re also a connected group with some influence on affairs in the physical world and group with diverse areas of expertise, so when we aren’t talking plays and strategy, we sometimes find ourselves helping people in this community accomplish real world things or resolve real world issues. To me, that is evidence that we collectively care about each other’s well-being, so there are shared values that have arisen from this thing called MGoBlog.
The core element, of course, is our devotion to University Of Michigan athletics as well as to the school itself. Whether we are alums or not, students there or not, it is the one institution which has, above others, made the deepest impression on all of us. The Wolverines are that team (whether it is football, basketball, hockey and so on through the varsity sports) to which we feel the deepest connection. Deep enough, as a matter of fact, that many of us digest almost every single bit of minutia, as evidenced by threads on travel itineraries for the team and posts obviously made while in line at the Spring Auction. From this center, through the years, a viable community – albeit virtual – has sprung, in my opinion.
Indeed, all this is why I come here, not just to be part of a group that shares my obsession with sports and the University Of Michigan, but to be part of the community that has developed around it.
With Michigan picking up two commits—and jumping back into first place—the recruiting rankings are front-paged this week. Also of note: Indiana and Wisconsin essentially changing places in the standings. Changes since the last rankings:
12-6-12: Rutgers picks up Dean Crozier.
12-9-12: Illinois picks up Marchie Murdock. Penn State picks up DaeSean Hamilton. Minnesota picks up De'Niro Laster.
12-10-12: Illinois picks up Dallas Hinkhouse. Indiana picks up Kristopher Smith.
12-11-12: Rutgers picks up Skai Moore. Indiana picks up Steven Funderburk.
12-12-12: Tiquention Coleman decommits from Wisconsin. Minnesota picks up Damien Wilson.
12-14-12: Penn State picks up Tyler Ferguson. Iowa picks up LeShun Daniels.
12-15-12: Delano Hill decommits from Iowa. Michigan picks up David Dawson and Delano Hill. Jonathan Cook decommits from Nebraska. Nebraska picks up D.J Singleton. Indiana picks up Noel Padmore.
|Big Ten+ Recruiting Class Rankings|
|Rank||School||# Commits||Rivals Avg||Scout Avg||24/7 Avg||ESPN Avg||Avg Avg^||POINTS*|
^The average of the average rankings of the four recruiting services (the previous four columns). The figure is calculated based on the raw numbers and then rounded, so the numbers above may not average out exactly.
*The product of number of Commits and Average Average
NOTE: Unranked recruits are counted as two-star players.
On to the full data after the jump.