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Big Ten Recruiting Class Rankings 8-14-11
Another big commit for Michigan, and we're back on the front page. A couple services should be revamping their rankings in the coming weeks, so keep an eye out for that as well. Action since last rankings:
8-7-1 Illinois gains commitment from Taylor Barton.
8-8-11 Michigan gains commitment from Ondre Pipkins. Indiana gains commitment from Shawn Heffern. Michigan State gains commitment from Kodi Kieler.
8-9-11 Indiana gains commitment from Sebastian Smith. Ohio State gains commitment from Roger Lewis. Minnesota "gains" commitment from Nick Rallis.
8-10-11 Nebraska gains commitment from Deion Jones. Penn State gains commitments from Eugene Lewis and Tommy Schutt.
8-12-11 Penn State gains commitment from Armani Reeves. Wisconsin gains commitment from Walker Williams.
Chart? Chart:
| Big Ten+ Recruiting Class Rankings | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Rank | School | # Commits | Rivals Avg | Scout Avg | ESPN Avg | 24/7 Avg |
| 1 | Michigan | 22 | 3.45 | 3.64 | 3.41 | 3.50 |
| 2 | Notre Dame | 13 | 3.31 | 3.77 | 3.46 | 3.46 |
| 3 | Penn State | 16 | 3.19 | 3.38 | 3.31 | 3.00 |
| 4 | Ohio State | 12 | 3.25 | 3.42 | 3.17 | 3.33 |
| 5 | Michigan State | 14 | 3.00 | 3.14 | 2.93 | 3.00 |
| 6 | Wisconsin | 9 | 3.11 | 3.33 | 3.11 | 2.89 |
| 7 | Indiana | 17 | 2.24 | 2.76 | 2.63 | 2.71 |
| 8 | Northwestern | 13 | 2.62 | 2.69 | 2.38 | 1.92 |
| 9 | Minnesota | 18 | 2.22 | 2.38 | 2.12* | 1.88 |
| 10 | Nebraska | 6 | 3.17 | 3.33 | 3.00 | 3.33 |
| 11 | Iowa | 9 | 3.00 | 3.00 | 3.00 | 2.89 |
| 12 | Purdue | 11 | 2.45 | 2.27 | 2.40 | 2.00 |
| 13 | Illinois | 8 | 2.13 | 2.63 | 2.50 | 2.00 |
*ESPN doesn't rate JUCOs, so Isaac Fruechte is not included in Minnesota's average, Darius Stroud doesn't count against Indiana's average, and Steffon Martin is excluded from Purdue's.
On to the full data, after the jump.
2011 Michigan Defense: Are You Experienced?

[Ed-M: Apologies to mod who front-paged this. I bumped back to diaries. Plan on discussion in today's Dear Diary.]
I did this diary last year knowing our defense would be extremely inexperienced. Here's hoping the 2011 numbers (and actual Defense) are more kind this year. At the time I did a simple breakdown between upperclassmen (Jr. to 5th) and underclassmen (Fr. to So.) and saw the strength of defenses climbing almost directly with the level of experience.
Michigan fans, myself included, are hopeful that our defense can be average compared to the rest of the conference. From an experience standpoint I believe this is a reasonable goal for 2011.
2011 Michigan Defense
WDE
Jr. Craig Roh
So. Jibreel Black
DT
Sr. Mike Martin
RS Fr. Ken Wilkens
DT
Jr. Will Campbell
RS So. Quinton Washington or RS Fr. Richard Ash
SDE
RS Sr. Ryan VanBergan
RS Sr. Will Heininger
MLB
RS Jr. Kenny Demens or Sr. Marell Evans
WLB
RS So. Mike Jones
RS Sr. Brandon Herron or RS Sr. J.B. Fitzgerald
SLB
RS So. Cameron Gordon
RS Fr. Jake Ryan
SS
RS Jr. Jordan Kovacs
So. Marvin Robinson
FS
So. Carvin Johnson
RS So. Tom Gordon or RS Fr. Josh Furman
CB
RS Sr. Troy Woolfolk
So. Courtney Avery
RS Jr. J.T. Floyd
So. Terrence Talbott
Teams are listed from weakest to strongest based on 2010 Total Defense.
Northwestern
(courtesy of BigTen Nation)
Starters
Upperclassman: 11
Underclassman: 0
Two-Deep
Upperclassman: 16
Underclassman: 6
Indiana
(courtesy of Rivals)
Starters
Upperclassman: 7
Underclassman: 4
Two-Deep
Upperclassman: 15
Underclassman: 7
Minnesota
(courtesy of Scout)
Starters
Upperclassman: 10
Underclassman: 1
Two-Deep
Upperclassman: 12
Underclassman: 10
Purdue
(courtesy of Scout)
Starters
Upperclassman: 8
Underclassman: 3
Two-Deep
Upperclassman: 13
Underclassman: 9
Michigan State
(courtesy of Rivals)
Starters
Upperclassman: 6
Underclassman: 5
Two-Deep
Upperclassman: 12
Underclassman: 10
Illinois
(courtesy of Rivals)
Starters
Upperclassman: 9
Underclassman: 2
Two-Deep
Upperclassman: 14
Underclassman: 8
Penn State
(courtesy of Rivals)
Starters
Upperclassman: 11
Underclassman: 0
Two-Deep
Upperclassman: 14
Underclassman: 8
Iowa
(courtesy of Rivals)
Starters
Upperclassman: 8
Underclassman: 3
Two-Deep
Upperclassman: 14
Underclassman: 8
Wisconsin
(courtesy of Rivals)
Starters
Upperclassman: 8
Underclassman: 3
Two-Deep
Upperclassman: 11
Underclassman: 11
Nebraska
(courtesy of Scout)
Starters
Upperclassman: 10
Underclassman: 1
Two-Deep
Upperclassman: 17
Underclassman: 5
Ohio State
(courtesy of Scout)
Starters
Upperclassman: 10
Underclassman: 1
Two-Deep
Upperclassman: 17
Underclassman: 5
Big Ten Averages:
Starters
Upperclassmen: 8.9
Underclassmen: 2.1
Two-Deep
Upperclassmen: 14.1
Underclassmen: 7.9
Michigan:
Starters
Upperclassmen: 7
Underclassmen: 4
Two-Deep
Upperclassmen: 11
Underclassmen: 11
These numbers are much better than last year and are not too far off from the rest of the Big Ten.
Why That Matters...
After looking at the B10 Total Defense rankings from 2010 there appeared to be three fairly seperate categories of defensive quailty:
Craptastic: 419.9 yds/game (Michigan, Northwestern, Indiana, Minnesota)
Decent: 345.8 yds/game (Purdue, MSU, Illinois, PSU, Iowa, Wisconsin)
Great: 284.5 yds/game (Nebraska, OSU).
There's no difference in the experience of Craptastic and Decent teams but to get from Decent to Great had a huge jump:
| Starters | Craptastic | Decent | Great | Mich 2010 | Mich 2011 |
| Upperclassmen | 8.8 | 8.3 | 10 | 5 | 7 |
| Underclassmen | 2.2 | 2.7 | 1 | 6 | 4 |
| Two-Deep | Craptastic | Decent | Great | Mich 2010 | Mich 2011 |
| Upperclassmen | 13.8 | 12.8 | 17 | 9 | 11 |
| Underclassmen | 8.2 | 9.2 | 5 | 13 | 11 |
This is quite interesting (and different from last year). Most of the B10 teams, including Michigan, seem to be returning the same amount of experience. Michigan is still less experienced but the gap (especially for the starters) is a lot smaller than in previous years.
Another encouraging note is the four underclassmen being pushed into playing time have all at least seen the field and any true freshmen who play do so because they are actually beating out on another player for the spot.
GO BLUE!
War-Gaming the Next Round of Major Conference Expansion
With the move of Texas A&M to the SEC now looking like a reality, it is worthwhile to discuss the likely consequences for the Big 12 and the other major conferences. Big Ten fans tend to jump immediately to the question of what our own league will do, but the question is premature. The dominoes are destined to fall in a particular order, with each leading to predictable consequences.
I. Will Texas politicians really let the Aggies move?
For those who wanted the Big 12 to survive, this was always their ace in the hole: Texas politicians wouldn’t allow Texas and Texas A&M to split up, mainly to protect Texas Tech and Baylor, and to keep SEC recruiters out of their state.
But Texas A&M has Gov. Rick Perry in their corner. Perry is well liked in the state, and he is as passionate an Aggie as they come. If he thinks the move is best for the Aggies, it is doubtful that any other Texas politician will cross him. It is also doubtful that the A&M Board of Regents would have the issue on the agenda of their Monday meeting, if they weren’t positive that they have the political cover to make it happen.
After flirting with the SEC two years in a row, if A&M doesn’t move now, it will be an emasculating show of weakness that they won’t live down for many years to come.
II. What Does Oklahoma Do?
After the Texas A&M move is announced, Oklahoma will be on the clock. Publicly, the Sooners remain committed to the Big 12. Privately, that simply cannot be true. Even now, the Big 12 has only the fourth-best TV contract of the major conferences. The conferences ahead of it are continuing to add value, while the Big 12 withers.
It can’t sit well with Oklahoma that Nebraska, Colorado, and now Texas A&M have bolted to greener pastures, while they are stuck in what will quickly become a second-tier league. There are institutions that would welcome an invitation to the Big 12 — commissioner Dan Beebe has mentioned Houston. But no one except Beebe could possibly think that the Cougars are as good a draw as the Aggies.
Oklahoma also faces the same pressures that have led Texas A&M to the point of seceding, namely, that the Longhorn Network gives the University of Texas a permanent structural advantage. And they cannot be pleased when Beebe says publicly that “Texas is the school that holds the key to the Big 12's future.” It reinforces the perception that the conference is just Texas and everybody else. Iowa State may tolerate that, but Oklahoma won’t.
Oklahoma has two very realistic options that are better than staying in the Big 12: the SEC and the Pac-12. Both conferences coveted the Sooners last year, and still do. Both would allow Oklahoma State to come along for the ride, an obvious requirement whatever the Sooners may do.
The SEC is a better geographic fit for Oklahoma, but the SEC has five of the fifteen winningest FBS programs in history (Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia, LSU, Auburn), to say nothing of perennial power Florida. In the SEC, Oklahoma’s path to the conference championship would be a very difficult one. Of course, it will be difficult for Texas A&M too, but the Aggies need the SEC; Oklahoma doesn’t.
The Pac-12, on the other hand, has only one storied program, USC. The rest of the conference isn’t chopped liver, but it has no other program with comparable, decades-long success. In the Pac-12, the Sooners could hope to win the conference title half-a-dozen times per decade, an unlikely prospect in the talent-laden SEC. I strongly suspect, therefore, that the Pac-12 is the future home for Oklahoma and Oklahoma State.
There are, of course, arguments against the Pac-12, including much longer road trips and night games that start at 10:00 p.m. Central Time. And the SEC’s “red” states are a much closer cultural fit for Oklahoma than the Pac-12’s mostly “blue” states.
There is no realistic chance that Oklahoma would get an invitation to the Big Ten. They are not academically on par with any Big Ten program, and even if the conference were willing to consider the Sooners alone, they certainly wouldn’t sniff at Oklahoma State.
Oklahoma, then, most likely moves to the Pac-12 and takes Oklahoma State with them.
III. What Does Texas Do?
Texas would love nothing more than to save the Big 12. Indeed, DeLoss Dodds, the Texas athletic director, says that he is looking at 20 schools as potential replacements for A&M, including the likes of Brigham Young and Air Force. But if Dodds thinks he can get Notre Dame, he is kidding himself. If the Irish were going to join a football conference, why would they choose the world’s most unstable one? It tells you everything you need to know about the Big 12, that it’s Dodds, and not commissioner Dan Beebe, who is looking at expansion candidates.
Texas was top dog in the conference even before Nebraska and Colorado left. Now, they are sitting pretty with their own $300 million dollar network and a league in which only one other team, Oklahoma, poses a threat to regularly win the championship.
But if I am correct that Oklahoma won’t stand for this, then the Big 12 as we have known it is doomed. Without Nebraska, Colorado, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State, the Big 12 is not a credible BCS league. Sure, DeLoss Dodds could find five teams from the mid-majors to replace those he has lost (or is about to lose), but it wouldn’t be a power conference, even with Texas as its anchor.
Texas would have the same two options as Oklahoma (the SEC and the Pac-12), plus two others the Sooners don’t realistically have, the Big Ten or independence. Let’s stipulate that any conference would be delighted to have Texas, the most valuable athletic department in America, in the nation’s second most populous state.
It is already well known that Texas President Bill Powers and Ohio State President Gordon Gee had at least discussed the idea of the Longhorns coming to the Big Ten. That became moot when the Big 12 got an eleventh-hour reprieve last summer. But as Gee wrote in an e-mail to Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany, Powers has a “Tech problem,” i.e., that Texas politicos don’t want Texas Tech to be the odd man out in conference re-alignment. The Big Ten won’t take Texas Tech, and unless Powers has found a way out of that problem, the Big Ten isn’t an option.
Of course, there is also the question whether the Big Ten is a cultural fit, to say nothing of a geographic fit. Texas always dominated the Big 12, and before that the old Southwest Conference. The Big Ten won’t be bullied, and it’s not clear the Longhorns are prepared to be team players. The Big Ten has the most democratic revenue-sharing arrangement of any major conference, and it is not clear how the Longhorn Network would fit in. The Longhorns have detonated two conferences in less than twenty years. Anyone would be understandably wary of them.
The Longhorns probably don’t want to be independent, either. Scheduling seasons for every other sport (besides football) is an enormous hassle when you don’t have a conference to fall back on, and they would lose their BCS auto-qualifying status. Of course, Texas would never need to worry seriously about getting a bowl invitation when they have a good season, but there is no assurance they would get the same sweetheart deal that Notre Dame got.
For Texas, the argument against the SEC, and in favor of the Pac-12, is much the same as it is for Oklahoma: the Pac-12 is a conference the Longhorns can much more easily dominate. And of course, if Oklahoma is already there, as I believe they will be, it makes sense to preserve their long-standing rivalry.
The Pac-12’s new TV network is tailor-made for Texas. In essence, Commissioner Larry Scott has created an umbrella channel, plus six regional cable channels for each pair of teams (the Washington schools, the Arizona schools, etc.). The Pac-12 won’t mind if Texas has their own network, because their new structure is already set up that way. As the Pac-12 expands in Noah’s Ark fashion, two by two, they would accept Texas Tech, thus bringing the Pac-12 to sixteen teams, precisely the scenario that Scott nearly pulled off a year ago.
IV. What Does the SEC Do?
No conference wants to be stuck at 13 teams. If the SEC adds Texas A&M, it will move quickly to add at least one more. The SEC would be happy to invite Oklahoma or Texas, but for the reasons I have noted, the Sooners and the Longhorns would be better off both financially and competitively in the Pac-12 (although they would be better off culturally and geographically in the SEC).
It is less clear where the SEC goes for its 14th team. Florida State is the rumor du jour, but FSU president Eric Barron says there is “no conversation.” As the dominant football conference, the SEC can afford to be choosy. Florida is likely to resist extending an invitation to their in-state rival, because it would eliminate one of the main recruiting advantages they have over the Seminoles, i.e., that they are in the SEC and FSU is not. South Carolina would probably object to Clemson, Georgia to Georgia Tech, and Kentucky to Louisville, for the same reason.
Of course, there is also the question of how the SEC benefits financially if they add a school that is within their current geographic footprint. How much more will ESPN/CBS be willing to pay for SEC games, if those games don’t bring in many more viewers than the SEC gets already?
If the SEC goes outside of its current footprint, what are the options? Three SEC schools are in states that share a border with Missouri, but Missouri is a “meh” add for the SEC, for the same reason it was a “meh” add for the Big Ten last year.
Virginia and the Washington, D.C., market bring obvious benefits. Virginia Tech has a better football team than UVA and has less of an historical connection with the ACC, to which it has belonged only since 2004. But in the ACC it has won the conference championship or a division title in five out of seven years. The Hokies are highly unlikely to duplicate that feat in the SEC, and they also have strong academic ties to the elite ACC schools.
So, other than the obvious fact that the SEC will add a 14th team, it is not clear how they will, assuming they don’t get Oklahoma or Texas.
V. What Does the ACC Do?
Most of the rumored options for the SEC’s 14th team are ACC schools. As the fifth-ranking auto-qualifying league (measured any way you want: prestige, competitiveness, TV revenue), the ACC cannot afford to lose members. As the Big 12 has shown, losing one member often leads to losing several. And without twelve teams, the ACC would not be able to stage a championship game.
But the ACC would not need to look far to replace Florida State, or any other member. Louisville, West Virginia, and South Florida are either in or adjoining the ACC footprint and would likely welcome an invitation. And if not a Big East school, there are several Conference USA teams that would not be out of place in the ACC, such as Memphis or East Carolina.
VI. What Do The Remaining Big 12 Teams Do?
To review the bidding thus far, if Texas A&M joins the SEC, it seems apparent that Oklahoma will abandon the Big 12 as well (with Oklahoma State), leaving Texas (likely with Texas Tech) no choice but to do the same. That will leave five Big 12 teams without a home: Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, and Missouri.
Iowa State, perennially the weakest of the Big 12 teams, is the least likely to find a home in an auto-qualifying league. Missouri has at least a geographic argument for joining either the SEC or the Big Ten, but it doesn’t bring enough to the table, either competitively or financially. Kansas has its storied basketball program, and would probably bring Kansas State along wherever it goes. Baylor needs to hope for a rescue, as it did when the Southwest Conference broke up.
The most logical answer—financially, although not geographically—is the Big East. The conference is an odd duck, with sixteen full members, but only eight that play football. It is the weakest of the auto-qualifying BCS leagues, and the only one that has never had a championship game.
Given that the Big East has never much cared about geographic contiguity or compactness, the obvious solution is to invite the remaining Big 12 teams to their party and add a championship game. Doing so would also give their newest member, TCU, a few rivals closer to home. How they would manage a twenty-team basketball conference is a question we leave for another day.
VII. What Does the Big Ten Do?
The short answer, at least for now, is: probably nothing. The Big Ten is already in a position of strength. It has no particular need to expand. There are only two institutions that could improve the Big Ten’s current product: Texas and Notre Dame. The Irish have chosen repeatedly to remain independent, and for reasons noted above, the Longhorns are more likely to choose the Pac-12.
The Big Ten is not going to add Missouri or Pitt, merely because it can. The conference already took a serious look at expanding eastward, but it ran up against an intractable problem. There simply is no Eastern school that can “deliver” the New York market. New Yorkers aren’t going to rush to buy the Big Ten Network because Rutgers or Syracuse is on it.
Adding Nebraska was an obvious win for the Big Ten, as the conference got one of the storied programs in football and was able to add an annual championship game. The next team Delany adds, if any, needs to bring in more than 1/12th of the current Big Ten shared revenue (from TV rights, bowl games, etc.), or else that institution would just drag the average down. There just aren’t many schools that can do that, because the Big Ten is so strong already.
Jack Swarbrick, the Notre Dame athletic director, said last year that he could imagine, theoretically, seismic shifts so profound that it would no longer be viable to remain independent in football. Perhaps those shifts are now upon us, and if they are the Big Ten will always be there to welcome the Irish with open arms. Perhaps Bill Powers will solve his “Tech problem.”
But for now, I expect the Big Ten to stand pat. It has the least reason of anyone to rush into an arranged marriage with a new partner.
Thursday Press Conference Video
Is this not the fourth presser in as many days? So much for locking down Fort Schembechler.
Coach and player quotes (text) here.
TomVH: Catching up with Pharaoh Brown
Ohio defensive end Pharaoh Brown has been committed to Michigan since May and has never looked back. The four star commit has been dubbed as an athletic defensive end with a ton of upside.
He played quarterback and defensive end last year for his high school team and now plans to switch to a different role on offense.
"This season I'll be playing tight end and defensive end," Brown said. "I don't really have a preference of either offense or defense, but I think I would rather play defense."
There was some noise this summer that Brown could potentially move to wide receiver after a seven on seven performance. The Michigan coaches have made it clear though that they want him on the defensive side of the ball, and he's good with that.
The senior season is always special and Brown feels as though they have a good enough team to make the playoffs. He has also set a few goals for himself to finish out his high school career.
"We have a great squad with a lot of seniors this year," he said. "We're projected to go to the playoffs so I think we'll go pretty far. I want to win the conference and make it to the playoffs, that's my goal."
The clock is starting to tick, and I'm sure before he knows it he'll be packing his bags for Ann Arbor. Brown is measuring in at 6 foot 6, 223 pounds right now, which is fine for high school. Michigan's defensive coordinator Greg Mattison has told him he will need to bulk up once he gets to the next level, which is something he's prepared to do.
"My cousin played football in college and had an NFL tryout, so he's been training me," Brown said. "I learned some new technique stuff this off season and I feel pretty good. I know I'll have to put on a lot of weight once I get there so I'll just stay up on lifting and protein shakes."
Brown said he committed to Michigan because of the academics, the scheme, and the whole package that Michigan had to offer. Since he's a part of the 2012 class he had heard the speech from the Michigan coaches, and knew what other prospects were hearing but he was still a little surprised by the quantity and quality of this class.
"I thought we would do well, but I didn't think it would be like this," he said. "I feel pretty good with this class, I think we're going to do big things."
Brown also said that he was doing some recruiting for his future team, and feels like he had a part in Ohio DE Tom Strobel committing as well.
While he's excited for his future at Michigan he is 100% focused on the task at hand this season and finishing out strong. The season starts for Brown when his team takes on Eastlake North at 7pm on August 26th.
Pharaoh Brown Junior Highlights:
Semi-OT: Other Jerel Worthy Tattoos
Hey, check out my favorite "other" Jerel Worthy tattos, and Jerel's thoughts regarding each of them:
11. Sparty peeing on a helmet marked "P" (Jerel says: "A lot of people think the 'P' is for Purdue but it's all about the land-grant rivalry, baby.")
10. Epaminodas leading the Spartans to victory over Thebes at the Battle of Leuctra in 371 B.C. (Jerel says: "Everyone was telling me to get Lysander but I wanted something different.")
9. A picture of a scoreboard reading "MSU 75, IU 64" and showing 0:00 on the clock. (Jerel says: "That was the 1979 championship. Magic versus Bird. I doesn't get any better than that.")
8. A drawing of a city with the words "Ann Arbor" inside it, with an outline of a cloud above the city, and inside the cloud a drawing of a mushroom. (Jerel says: "You see what I did there?")
7. Flint. (Jerel says: "I loved watching Mateen and those guys back when I was coming up in Ohio.")
6. The Saskrit symbol for luck. (Jerel says: "Some bedsheet-wearing dude recommended it to me and I thought it looked cool, so...")
5. An uninterrupted urine stream that circles his right arm three times. (Jerel says: "I like the barbed-wire thing, but gotta keep it fresh.")
4. "MSU Juniors Rule!" (Jerel says: "I got that one last year. Guy at the parlor was like, 'you sure you don't want Class of '12?' but I told him 'hells no.'")
3. An inmate peeing on a prison guard. (Jerel says: "That's a shout-out to all my teammates in Ionia Correctional. Go Green yo.")
2. A "swordfight" between Tom Izzo and Mark Dantonio. (Jerel says: "I know Izzo would win. But Dantonio would get some good shots in first.")
1. A "How Many Things Can You Find Wrong With This Picture" puzzle from Games magazine (Jerel says: "I wear number 99 so...")
